2014-2015 Off-Season Player Movement Discussion

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by revsfan603, Oct 27, 2014.

  1. EvilTree

    EvilTree Member+

    Canadian S.C
    Canada
    Nov 20, 2007
    Frozen Swampland, Soviet Canuckistan
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
  2. Howard the Drake

    Feb 27, 2010
    is the bona fide offer to an outside player something we knew about before? because holy hell, that might be the dumbest MLS rule yet
     
  3. jason1551

    jason1551 Member+

    Apr 9, 2003
    Columbus, GA
    Club:
    DC United
    It's written explicitly on the website rules and guidelines page, so I would say yes. Don't know why that would surprise anyone.
    Just because it happens so infrequently doesn't mean there's a conspiracy. It prevents a player from trying to bid up one team over another.
     
  4. PhillyMLS

    PhillyMLS Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    SE PA
    Happened with Kris Boyd the other year. Houston wanted him but couldn't come to terms and he went to Portland. Portland had to give allocation money to Houston to complete the signing.
     
  5. evangel

    evangel Member+

    Apr 12, 2007
  6. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Couple of rumors/bits of news from Colorado.

    First, multiple reports that Juan Ramirez is signed for a $2 million transfer fee



    Also multiple reports (they all trace back to one source I think) that Kevin Doyle has been offered a contract by the Rapids:
    http://www.the42.ie/kevin-doyle-mls-move-colorado-rapids-1930244-Feb2015/
     
  7. PhillyMLS

    PhillyMLS Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    SE PA
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  8. Howard the Drake

    Feb 27, 2010
    the read from Tannenwald is that this is different than acquiring a player who is just on a discovery list though.
     
  9. PhillyMLS

    PhillyMLS Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    SE PA
    I like JT, but I think his read on this is off. He very much is against things like allocation rankings and discovery lists so I think he is reading into this based on those feelings. I could be wrong though, it is known to happen.
     
  10. PhillyMLS

    PhillyMLS Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    SE PA
  11. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  12. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Retaining players like Castillo is a big deal.

    It should be noted that Castillo staying isn't a surprise. He's talked at length about how much he loves it there, and how much the team has helped him mature as a player and person.

    INFOGRAPH: 20 goals, 16 assists & still just 22 years old. Who's ready for five more years of Fabian? #DTID

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  13. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  14. UxSxAxfooty

    UxSxAxfooty Member+

    Jan 23, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  15. j66j66

    j66j66 Member

    Apr 26, 2005
    Portland, OR
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hinchey: "I didn't say anything about basketball! I said to find him some good nuggets!"
     
  16. PhillyMLS

    PhillyMLS Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    SE PA
  17. revsfan603

    revsfan603 Member

    New England Revolution
    Jun 20, 2013
    New Hampshire
    Club:
    ADO Den Haag
    ya but if you were trying to get someone to come to colorado where would you bring him?
     
  18. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Red Rocks, or Vail.
     
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  19. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Soccer players can't participate in most of the activities that one would go to Vail for. So that might work for a player that is at the end of their career, but what about at the start of their career?
     
  20. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They can still eat well, shop well, and hike/bike Vail during off weeks in the summer. ;) Or take them to Winter Park for snow-shoeing and cross-country skiing (national training center). I think those are probably allowed by the CBA.
     
  21. jason1551

    jason1551 Member+

    Apr 9, 2003
    Columbus, GA
    Club:
    DC United
    It wasn't just that Vitoria was on VWFC's discovery list. VWFC was in contract talks with him, and he rejected the offer. By putting in an offer, VWFC maintains the first right to sign him (which is the same sort of scenario for MLS players who are out of contract that decide to sign for a team outside MLS), so MLS was trying to protect a team's right to hold new contract talks with the same player.
     
  22. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well.. mountain biking is specifically called out as being prohibited in the CBA that ended in 2010.. I'd also guess that cross-country skiing is prohibited, but they did say downhill skiing was prohibited, so that may be a sign that cross-country skiing would be allowed.
     
  23. edwardgr

    edwardgr Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Damn the CBA sounds like that prenup in Madonna's film Who's that Girl.
     
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  24. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who said anything about mountain biking? There's a reason the USA Pro Challenge likes to have most stages in the mountains. ;)
     

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