3-2 final we lose... However, as the things stand right now, we're more or less in anyway. Really tough game they had to play in that torrential downpour and in front of crazy amount of Indonesian home fans so I don't want to criticize them that much, but at the same time let's remember that the final tournament is in Myanmar and we may have to play in the same conditions come that time. Hopefully a lesson learned for them. This team seems to be offence first defence second though and that does kinda worry me. There looks to be holes in D in this edition of the team.
Officially qualified now, albeit a bit embarrasingly. Then again, in the qualifiers of the previous generation we also squeezed in as a 2nd placed team and ended up winning the whole thing in the final tourney, so hopefully this group will get it together too.
phew....that was a close call. That was one hell of a condition to play. I'm not going fault too much on the players today considering all things that went. We had to have our GK and MF come off during that timeout and I am wondering why. That was two valuable substitutions wasted quickly. Lee Jung-bin missing was effective as well (had to go back due to an interview with the university he is going to). But as mentioned what's more important is the final qualification stage next year. Kim Sang-ho seems to like 4-3-3 and 4-4-2 the most. What he'll need to do though, is go around the whole country during the upcoming months and find the best talents for this generation. Do what Lee Gwang-jong did by doing a little KFA 'audition' (not a real one of course). Btw, these Indonesians have unbelievable interest and support on this team. They had 50,000 people in the stadium I think this might be their golden generation or something. Their captain who scored all three goals seems to have the most fans.
there has been real push for Indonesia to be a proper team in the AFC lately. starting out at the grass routes and all that. i think on a neutral site or at home we would have easily taken them but its progress for them. they certainly have the huge population to be a force if they play their cards right.
Infrastructure has proven to be the most important factor. But population does matter imo. I think it's more that it has diminishing returns at a certain point.
What makes people good at soccer is a very complicated subject, in my eyes. Many factors could potentially influence the player in question: Resources available in the environment (rich or poor country, training facilities), cultural background (which sports are held in high esteem, etc.). All these can be called "environmental variables". Of course "genetic limits" have to play some kind of role as well. Brazil has over 10 million registered soccer players, Argentina has about 2.5 million. This means that Uruguay has a smaller male population than these countries have registered soccer players. Historically they’re not better than Argentina or Brazil but for such a small country they can give us a good spanking.
well of course there are other factors in play besides a large population...the key part of my post being working at the grass roots. there have been strong efforts to get these ASEAN countries competitive at the youth levels for starters and make football training more uniform nationwide. Indonesia in particular also have been working with Japanese based trainers (who learned their trade from the Brazilians) to build up the program from the ground up. work on ball manipulation and basic skills (stopping, starting, first touch, etc.).
No offense, but your opinion doesn't really mean anything. Plenty of studies have shown that population does not indicate sporting success.
I didn't say population indicated sporting success. I said population matters too. I thought you meant population means absolutely nothing in terms of sporting ability.
Sorry for miscommunication. But population still doesn't matter for sporting ability. You're comment about infrastructure was more on point. Having lots of people doesn't mean good athletes. Look at India. 1.5 billion people and the only sport they're relevant at, most of the world doesn't care about.
that's where culture comes in. cricket is arguably the world's second popular sport behind football and a big part of india's culture. i think population plays a factor when you take into consideration the talent pool. the more potential people you have, the greater the odds a country would have world class athletes. it's not the main and may not be the most important factor but it's definitely in the equation.
Full clip of Korea vs Indonesia Hwang Hee-chan with a nice run at the beginning. The interest from Indonesian fans and media is unbelievable for an U18 team. I wish our fans....or more importantly the media! would have at least half of that kind of interest on our team. If this same match was played in Korea I can imagine that the crowd would have been less than a 1000 with no TV coverage. 50,000
Yeah these South East Asian countries really love their football. Example being the other week when Australia were playing Vietnam, the live stream on youtube (in vietnamese of course) peaked just over 100,000 viewers. They sure love their football in those countries.
[From 김창훈's Facebook who is a man that works at Visual Sports] Locker room motivation speech before Indonesia match https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=526745754069037 Photos after Indonesia match
If there is Hwang Sun-hong in the pro league, there is Lee Chang-won in the amateur league. Won 3 consecutive K League U-18 Challenge League titles, Pohang U-18 (Pocheol High Schools)'s coach gives his footballing philosophy - http://sports.media.daum.net/soccer...1027&newsid=20131108090809428&p=interfootball One day, when he has had enough with Pocheol, and there is someone with familiar vision to take over at Pocheol, I would like this man to take over the U-20 in the future. http://sports.media.daum.net/soccer...1027&newsid=20131108090809428&p=interfootball
Kim Sang-ho interview on his job so far Latest Meeting the same players after 6 years On the Indonesia match The type of players he wants About his football on the pitch The goals http://www.kfa.or.kr/news/news_view.asp?tb_name=interview_gisa&g_idx=1546&g_gubun=1
Jeju training camp squad http://www.kfa.or.kr/news/news_view.asp?tb_name=kfa_gisa&g_idx=11124&g_gubun=2 Well this officially concludes that Seo Myung-won has indeed signed with Daejeon Citizens. Only 3 players from K League. Others probably getting used to their first life as pro in respective club training camps. Cho Yoseob probably caught the eyes of Kim Sang-ho from that final match.
A very interesting way to start the training camp...Volunteer service! I actually like it. Kim Do-hoon coach is in the staff! That I like as well. http://www.kfa.or.kr/news/news_view.asp?tb_name=kfa_gisa&g_idx=11142&g_gubun=2
[Day 1 Jeju training camp] Cho Yoseob is announced the captain. I like the way manager Kim Sang-ho is working with this team. Brining in Kim Do-hoon to the assistant role was also a noteworthy thing to do. http://www.kfa.or.kr/news/news_view.asp?tb_name=kfa_gisa&g_idx=11144&g_gubun=2