2010-2011 Concacaf Champions League - [R]

Discussion in 'CONCACAF Champions Cup' started by Paul Calixte, Sep 2, 2009.

  1. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    First off: for the record, this is in no way an attempt to "steal thunder" from the threads for the current tournament - in fact, I'd expect this one to show up sporadically until it becomes more consistently useful.

    But...

    http://www.concacafchampions.com/page/CL/201011/0,,12856,00.html

    Since CONCACAF itself confirms (implicitly) that the changes to the format of the tournament will take place after this version, and since I know you guys will be a lot faster than our dear federation - sorry, hold up a minute, let me grab a tissue for that water I just spit out - at updating everyone else with the latest qualifier, here's a space for recognizing the next team in.

    The first berth will be decided tonight in about 2 hours (or more depending on if the game reaches extra time):

    USA4: US Open Cup Winner - DC United or Seattle Sounders FC
     
  2. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2010-2011 Concacaf Champions League

    Perhaps, but usually that honor goes to whoever loses the MLS Cup Final (New England in 2007, New York in '08).
     
  3. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2010-2011 Concacaf Champions League

    And there you have it, the first qualifier for the 2010-11 CONCACAF Champions League:

    USA4: Seattle Sounders FC

    I'm guessing the next one would be USA2 (the Supporter's Shield winner), and then does any Apertura season in Mexico or Central America finish before the MLS Cup Final?
     
  4. It's called FOOTBALL

    LMX Clubs
    Mexico
    May 4, 2009
    Chitown
    Re: 2010-2011 Concacaf Champions League

    September 2, 2009. Seattle Sounders qualify for the Preliminary Round. (1 of 24)


    Congrats to Seattle. The CCL is a fun experience where you play teams you've never played before, thus learning about new leagues and expanding your football horizons. Qwest should be rocking next summer for the CCL.
     
  5. It's called FOOTBALL

    LMX Clubs
    Mexico
    May 4, 2009
    Chitown
    Re: 2010-2011 Concacaf Champions League

    No.

    Actually, the Seattle Sounders are the 1st club worldwide to qualify for continental competition. The last continental qualificants (AFC or CAF) for the 2011 CWC will qualify at the end of next year.
     
  6. CrewFan1

    CrewFan1 New Member

    Nov 10, 2005
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Re: 2010-2011 Concacaf Champions League

    Seattle v. D.C. was a great game marred by the red card D.C. goalie Josh Wicks received for stepping on Freddy Montero of Seattle after he scored the first goal. It was definitely intentional on Wicks' part.
     
  7. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2010-2011 Concacaf Champions League

    Since you're a Crew fan, I just have to ask:

    Given your team's schedule of CCL games for this month (@ Saprissa, vs. Cruz Azul, vs. Saprissa) and the fact that just about all your MLS games from here on in are going to be tough, do you think that Columbus will put in a fight for the Supporter's Shield or just do enough to get to the playoffs?
     
  8. CrewFan1

    CrewFan1 New Member

    Nov 10, 2005
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Re: 2010-2011 Concacaf Champions League

    That's a great question. I've heard in interviews with the coaching staff and players that it is a priority to advance through to the quarterfinals of the CCL. The games this past week kind of showed that with the lineups that the Crew put out. They want to be the first MLS team to go to the CWC very badly and i think they'll do just enough to make the MLS playoffs, because i do believe the Crew and Houston are the 2 best teams in MLS, no matter home or away.
     
  9. nfiniti

    nfiniti Member

    Jun 30, 2007
    Rutherford
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    Panama
    Re: 2010-2011 Concacaf Champions League

    another guaranteed soldout for the CCL.. good for seattle. congrats.
     
  10. Socrates_81

    Socrates_81 Red Card

    May 27, 2008
    Blank
    Re: 2010-2011 Concacaf Champions League


    You're on a roll.

    By the way, to the MLSers, what's the supporters shield?
     
  11. CrewFan1

    CrewFan1 New Member

    Nov 10, 2005
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Re: 2010-2011 Concacaf Champions League

    The MLS Supporters Shield goes to the team that has the most points during the regular season. Columbus won it last year, as well as the MLS Cup. This year Houston has a one point advantage over Columbus right now.
     
  12. Socrates_81

    Socrates_81 Red Card

    May 27, 2008
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    Re: 2010-2011 Concacaf Champions League


    Cool, so it's basically the round robin champ before the playoffs. Good to know.
     
  13. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  14. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2010-2011 Concacaf Champions League

    The schedule isn't exactly balanced though. This year with 15 clubs and 30 games you play two teams three times and twelve teams two times. When there were 12 clubs in two conferences of 6, you played each club in your conference four times and each club in the other conference two times for a total of 32 games. With Philadelphia becoming the 16th MLS club next year we'll see if MLS goes to a double round-robin schedule.
     
  15. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2010-2011 Concacaf Champions League

    And they have - although it will probably disappear as soon as it showed up, what with MLS planning on expanding to 20 teams in the near future.

    And for the next qualifier: in the last few weeks, Columbus has taken no less than 7 points from 3 games against their closest rivals for the Supporter's Shield (Houston, Chicago and LA), so at this point it looks as if we're just waiting for results to confirm that Columbus will be back to the group stages next year (no official confirmation yet, though).
     
  16. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2010-2011 Concacaf Champions League

    And there you have it! Since the last challenger to the Supporter's Shield fell tonight (Chivas USA, after losing 1-0 at Chicago), we have the next qualifier for the 2010-11 tournament:

    USA2: Columbus Crew (Supporter's Shield Winner)

    EDIT: ...beaten by a matter of seconds... :D
     
  17. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2010-2011 Concacaf Champions League

    One thing that should be noted here, though, is that since the USA 1 and 3 spots are given based on appearing in the MLS Cup Final, nothing stops Columbus or Seattle from taking a higher qualifying slot and passing down their second one. In which case (to avoid confusion): the succession is based on the regular season table - that is, the best MLS team from the season that doesn't already have a spot gets the hand-me-down one. Even if Columbus manages to achieve the same thing they did last year - win both automatic spots by taking home the Supporter's Shield and the MLS Cup, they would pass their USA2 spot to whoever is the next best team not in. So, for instance, if Chivas USA were to finish in second, they could get knocked out of the first round in the playoffs, have nothing to show for their season, and then as a gift from Columbus wind up right in the group stages, like Houston did for this tournament.
     
  18. chapka

    chapka Member+

    May 18, 2004
    Haverford, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2010-2011 Concacaf Champions League

    Good point. So if I understand things correctly, right now we have:

    USA 1 or 2: Columbus Crew
    USA 1, 3, or 4: Seattle Sounders
     
  19. Nerroth

    Nerroth Member

    Feb 9, 2008
    Ontario, Canada
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Re: 2010-2011 Concacaf Champions League

    If the Crew win MLS Cup, USA2 would pass down to the Galaxy - who edged Houston at the end of the season.

    (They finished level points-wise, but LA edged it since they have a better win-loss record this season against the Dynamo. Had the tiebreak been on goal difference, Houston would have finished higher.)


    The Dynamo will have to make it all the way to the final if they want back in the CCL next year...
     
  20. cool cat

    cool cat New Member

    Oct 29, 2009
    Gillette Stadium
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Re: 2010-2011 Concacaf Champions League

    Looking forward to seeing Seattle in the CCL, since being in the CWC is one of their main aspirations.
     
  21. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2010-2011 Concacaf Champions League

    Since I forgot to put an [R] in the title, I'll warn any MLSers here: SPOILERS AHEAD








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    Ok, now that you've had a chance to dodge if desired... :D

    Since both of the teams that came into the playoffs with CCL tickets in their pockets (Columbus Crew and Seattle Sounders) are out, we now know that there will be no hand-me-down situation this year. So this much is confirmed:

    USA 1: eventual MLS Cup winner
    USA 2: Columbus Crew
    USA 3: eventual MLS Cup runner-up
    USA 4: Seattle Sounders FC
     
  22. IASocFan

    IASocFan Moderator
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    Aug 13, 2000
    IOWA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2010-2011 Concacaf Champions League

    [R] now in the title.

    Good updates.
     
  23. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2010-2011 Concacaf Champions League

    Thanks for changing the title!

    And there'll be an official update later tonight, but just to let everyone know: while more important WC Qualifiers will be taking place over the weekend, here in the US we will find out who are the next two qualifiers to the Champions League tonight (as participants in the MLS Cup Final) and tomorrow night - although we'll have to wait for the 22nd to see which of them goes straight to the group stages.

    Tonight: LA Galaxy vs. Houston Dynamo
    Tomorrow: Chicago Fire vs. Real Salt Lake
     
  24. MetroChile

    MetroChile Member+

    Jan 13, 2001
    NJ; Valpo.
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Re: 2010-2011 Concacaf Champions League

    Those 2 Conference finals will be just played over one game, right? Not a home-and-away series?
     
  25. harrylee773

    harrylee773 Member+

    Jul 28, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: 2010-2011 Concacaf Champions League

    Correct, one-offs from here on out. The 2 leg first round is done to give each playoff team a home game.
     

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