2009-2010 Concacaf Champions League - Part II

Discussion in 'CONCACAF Champions Cup' started by IASocFan, Aug 28, 2009.

  1. Moises

    Moises Member

    Feb 8, 2007
    miami
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    I dont so. I doubt the club will be investing that much in having the LA chivas fly to Colorado to play the crew.......
     
  2. la fresa

    la fresa Member+

    Oct 31, 2005
    texas
    Club:
    Serbian White Eagles
    i think there is an mls reserve league, or development league.
     
  3. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which was my whole point.


    There used to be but not anymore. There was also a roster reduction this year.
     
  4. City Dave

    City Dave Member

    Jan 26, 2007
    Cleveland, OH
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There was one. But they got rid of it this year. I think they said it was too expensive for them to keep up.
     
  5. nfiniti

    nfiniti Member

    Jun 30, 2007
    Rutherford
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    Panama
    that's a problem.. limited rosters. and on top of that the few reserves riding the bench .. the reserves could play against each other right before the 1st teams play each other.. this way they get some kind of playing time
     
  6. nfiniti

    nfiniti Member

    Jun 30, 2007
    Rutherford
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    Panama
    let's say ex.. chivas reserves vs red bulls reserves @ 1:00pm and then 1st team chivas vs 1st team RB @ 3:30pm.
     
  7. IASocFan

    IASocFan Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2000
    IOWA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Are you suggesting 6v6? The teams aren't deep enough for a serious reserve league.
     
  8. nfiniti

    nfiniti Member

    Jun 30, 2007
    Rutherford
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    Panama
    thx
     
  9. It's called FOOTBALL

    LMX Clubs
    Mexico
    May 4, 2009
    Chitown
    It's a little late for more ifs. Every league is given a chance in the CCL. That's the only chance you get.

    "Not taking it seriously" (which they did anyway) is a reflection on the quality of a club. There are no more chances for ifs. The proof is in the standings. The statistics speak for themselves.
     
  10. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    The FMF got 4/4 teams to the Quarters

    The pamanian league got 1 out of 2

    The Guatemalan league got 1 out of 2

    The Honduran league got 1 out of 3

    MLS got 1 out of 5

    Up till this point the MLS is the fifth best league in the CCL, only getting 20% of their teams into the final 8. MLS does not deserve 5 spots in the CCL. not even 4. At most they deserve 3 spots. 2 for the US clubs and 1 for Toronto if they qualify
     
  11. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Marathon is arguably the best non mexican club in Concacaf today. They finished first in the group of death last year and once again are in the Quarterfinals.
     
  12. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    My favorites to win the CCL in order

    1. Toluca
    2. Cruz Azul
    3. Pachuca
    4. Pumas
    5. Marathon
    6. Arabe Unido
    7. Comunicaciones
    8. Columbus Crew
     
  13. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, depends - is Tuca going to try and get the trophy this time, or tank it like he did against Cruz Azul last year? Because if it is the latter, than Pumas drops to...well, 5th if they don't bother, and 6th if they run out the u-20s again.
     
  14. Ags09

    Ags09 Member

    Club America
    Mexico
    Jun 16, 2006
    Philly
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    he is going to prolly use u-20s again...
     
  15. It's called FOOTBALL

    LMX Clubs
    Mexico
    May 4, 2009
    Chitown
    I agree.

    That really pissed me off. Why would anyone pass up the opportunity to be in the Club World Cup???
     
  16. jaisz

    jaisz New Member

    Jun 21, 2009
    MLS 1.0
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not familiar with the situation you guys are talking about, but I could understand if someone prioritized league results before the Club World Cup. It's not really that prestigious as a tournament, kind of like the Confederations Cup.
     
  17. It's called FOOTBALL

    LMX Clubs
    Mexico
    May 4, 2009
    Chitown
    Being champion of the world isn't prestigious?

    At least the Confederations Cup has another worldwide tournament that trumps it. The CWC is the only world title available for clubs.
     
  18. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As you know, spots go to countries, not leagues, so even if CONCACAF awarded spots based on merit Toronto FC's performance would be irrelevant to how many spots the United States got. Using your measure, MLS did worse in 2009-2010 (20%) than in 2008-2009 (25%) but that isn't the case. Honduras has Marathon, but Real Espana did worse in the Group Stage than any of the three MLS clubs. D.C. United and Houston Dynamo didn't make the quarterfinals and Comunicaciones did, but if D.C. and Houston both played two leg series against Comunicaciones I think at least one of D.C. or Houston would win.
     
  19. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't try to reason with them or they will call you names and then the mod will censor your post. It just isn't worth it.
     
  20. It's called FOOTBALL

    LMX Clubs
    Mexico
    May 4, 2009
    Chitown
    Here we go with the ifs again.

    Can't you guys just go with the facts? That's why the games are played, so there would be no need for speculating.

    Mexican fans post facts here, then US league fans respond with ifs. Come on now.
     
  21. Pirru

    Pirru Member+

    Sep 21, 2004
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    the gap is closing
     
  22. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    them? :rolleyes:

    you must have me confused with someone else.:rolleyes:

    I´m not going to go apeshit over Evanj´s post which is respectful
     
  23. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    even if Saprissa had beaten Cruz Azul on the final matchday, they still would be out because the Crew beats them in head to head
     
  24. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jajaja I should have been more specific:

    When I say "one win away", I mean "one result away" - that Saprissa could have qualified (assuming all the other results occur as they did) just by beating Columbus at home.
     
  25. Which they didn't... :confused:
     

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