2008 Offseason Player Movement Scorecard

PhantomTollbooth · Nov 20, 2007

OK, I promised myself I wouldn't do this again, but the wacky Mathis trade inspired me. Post your confirmed roster moves with some kind of source in this thread, and I'll compile them into a nice little list.

As usual, our list will be better than the one on MLSNet.

Here's move numero uno:

Los Angeles
Inbound:
Clint Mathis (trade w/ NY)

New York
Out:
Clint Mathis (trade w/LA)

Draft Picks
3rd round in 2008 draft (from LA in C. Mathis trade)

JoeW · Nov 20, 2007

Refresh my memory oh great one! Does this include retirements (like Gros and Wattereus)?

PhantomTollbooth · Nov 20, 2007

Add retirements of Jones and Armas

Chicago
Out:
Chris Armas (retired)

Los Angeles
In:
Clint Mathis (trade w/ NY)

Out:
Cobi Jones (retired)

New York
Out:
Clint Mathis (trade w/LA)

Draft Picks
3rd round in 2008 draft (from LA in C. Mathis trade)

tacubo · Nov 20, 2007

Add Wanchope to the retired list

JoeW · Nov 20, 2007

Add Ronald Wattereus of NYRB has retired.

Josh Gros of DC United is retired but has not officially made an annoucement yet.

RapidStorm · Nov 20, 2007

Add Daniel Osorno to the list of retired players:

Also in addition to this list, Rapids forward #16 Daniel Osorno has announced his retirement, and will not be made available for the draft.
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http://www.coloradorapids.com/News/NewsDetails.aspx?NID=J9+5givG++E=

Not like we lost anything there though

PhantomTollbooth · Nov 20, 2007

JoeW said: ↑

Refresh my memory oh great one! Does this include retirements (like Gros and Wattereus)?
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Yep! I forgot about those two.

PhantomTollbooth · Nov 20, 2007

Add four more retired players

Chicago
Out:
Chris Armas (retired)
Paulo Wanchope (retired)

Colorado
Out:
Daniel Osorno (retired)

DC
Out:
Josh Gros (retired)

Los Angeles
In:
Clint Mathis (trade w/ NY)

Out:
Cobi Jones (retired)

New York
Out:
Clint Mathis (trade w/LA)
Ronald Wattereus (retired)

Draft Picks
3rd round in 2008 draft (from LA in C. Mathis trade)

Clint Eastwood · Nov 20, 2007

And Eddie Pope.

3rd degree is reporting that Sebastian Botero has been released by FC Dallas, so he can try to catch on with a team in Colombia.

http://www.3rddegree.net/2007/11/practice-observations-passing-time/

PhantomTollbooth · Nov 21, 2007

Hey -- can someone sticky this like we did the last couple years?

Changes:
Add Pope retirement
Botero out at FCD

Chicago
Out:
Chris Armas (retired)
Paulo Wanchope (retired)

Colorado
Out:
Daniel Osorno (retired)

DC
Out:
Josh Gros (retired)

Dallas
Out:
Sebastian Botero (released - looking for gig in Colombia)

Los Angeles
In:
Clint Mathis (trade w/ NY)

Out:
Cobi Jones (retired)

New York
Out:
Clint Mathis (trade w/LA)
Ronald Wattereus (retired)

Draft Picks
3rd round in 2008 draft (from LA in C. Mathis trade)

Salt Lake
Out:
Eddie Pope (retired)

SoccerPrime · Nov 21, 2007

PhantomTollBooth, I just want to thank you in advance for doing this again. Year in, year out one of the best threads on BigSoccer.

PhantomTollbooth · Nov 22, 2007

Mods: Please Sticky

Changes:
Expansion Draft Results

Chicago
Out:
Chris Armas (retired)
Ivan Guerrero (expansion draft)
Paulo Wanchope (retired)

Chivas
Out:
Jason Hernandez (expansion draft)

Colorado
Out:
Daniel Osorno (retired)

Columbus
Out:
Ned Grabavoy (expansion draft)

DC
Out:
Brian Carroll (expansion draft)
Josh Gros (retired)

Dallas
Out:
Sebastian Botero (released - looking for gig in Colombia)
Clarence Goodson (expansion draft)

Houston
Out:
Ryan Cochrane (expansion draft)

Los Angeles
In:
Clint Mathis (trade w/ NY)

Out:
Gavin Glinton (expansion draft)
Cobi Jones (retired)

New England
Out:
James Riley (expansion draft)

New York
Out:
Clint Mathis (trade w/LA)
Joe Vide (expansion draft)
Ronald Wattereus (retired)

Draft Picks
3rd round in 2008 draft (from LA in C. Mathis trade)

Salt Lake
Out:
Eddie Pope (retired)

San Jose
In:
Brian Carroll (expansion draft)
Ryan Cochrane (expansion draft)
Gavin Glinton (expansion draft)
Clarence Goodson (expansion draft)
Ned Grabavoy (expansion draft)
Ivan Guerrero (expansion draft)
Jason Hernandez (expansion draft)
Chris Pozniak (expansion draft)
James Riley (expansion draft)
Joe Vide (expansion draft)

Toronto
Out:
Chris Pozniak (expansion draft)

lawrenceterp · Nov 22, 2007

I can't wait until he puts Veron under the "In" column for DC.

Boloni86 · Nov 25, 2007

Subscribed ...

And rep to Phantom Tollbooth. This is one of the best offseason threads without doubt

nick · Nov 25, 2007

Great Thread.

I can see already that DCU has lost what were until this season two key midfielders in Gros and Carroll.

ritsoccer86 · Nov 25, 2007

nick said: ↑

Great Thread.

I can see already that DCU has lost what were until this season two key midfielders in Gros and Carroll.
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Why did Gros retire? Is he sick and tired of MLS now?

sidefootsitter · Nov 25, 2007

Head concussions.

ritsoccer86 · Nov 25, 2007

sidefootsitter said: ↑

Head concussions.
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That's understandable. Dang.

Good luck to him.

Ismitje · Nov 25, 2007

Sitckied.

And what do you mean Phantom, implying you wouldn't do this again. Why else would I come to BigSoccer in the offseason if not to check this thread every day?

SoccerPrime · Nov 26, 2007

Any news on the player trades that Yallop (Quakes) alluded to last Wednesday?

JoeW · Nov 26, 2007

SoccerPrime said: ↑

Any news on the player trades that Yallop (Quakes) alluded to last Wednesday?
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None. My guess is that there are two factors here:
--the difficulty of contacting players in the off-season or over a holiday (to let them know first a trade is happening: some organizations operate that way rather than just announcing it and letting the player find out through the media).
--some hardball is going on. A lot of that happened with TFC (where they supposedly wanted Conway, NYRB wanted Eskandarian, then the Dyachenko situation where MoJo knew that DCU needed depth before the CCC started). Columbus is also notoriously difficult to trade with. Or maybe Yallop is demanding a first round pick for a player that the original team views as only worth a #3 or #4 pick.

andriy · Nov 26, 2007

SoccerPrime said: ↑

PhantomTollBooth, I just want to thank you in advance for doing this again. Year in, year out one of the best threads on BigSoccer.
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My sentiments exactly. Thanks PhantomTollBooth!

kenntomasch · Nov 26, 2007

RTFT: "Post your confirmed roster moves with some kind of source in this thread, and I'll compile them into a nice little list."

footballfan10 · Nov 26, 2007

Andy Dorman is leaving the Revolution, according to mlsnet.com, to play in his homeland of England. Here is the link.

web.mlsnet.com/news

kenntomasch · Nov 26, 2007

Actual link.