12/04/4 - Momentary Lapse of Insanity

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by jmeissen0, Dec 4, 2004.

  1. mpruitt

    mpruitt Member

    Feb 11, 2002
    E. Somerville
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    If those Salt Lake articles are true that they've got some real hard proposals for sites on the board then maybe that takes some of the sting out of the "I thought you needed a SSS to have an expansion team" criticism when RSL was first announced.
     
  2. TAKK

    TAKK New Member

    Jan 28, 2004
    Westchester, NY
    It's Checketts. He get's things done. He doesn't wait and wonder why?

    He just does.

    God bless him. If only we can take him, Mr. Wilt and yes Mr. Chivas himself to do the selling for each team and you know what?

    Our league would have it made.
     
  3. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  4. Hillbilly Thunder

    Hillbilly Thunder New Member

    Apr 22, 2004
    Ballyhooed,CA
  5. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
    Most of the polls for the presidential race were only a few hundred people, maybe a thousand tops. You don't need a ton of people to get accurate results.
     
  6. SoulflyTribeFC

    SoulflyTribeFC New Member

    Mar 24, 2002
    Are you kidding? That's the new team in Salt City Lake.

    Come on, get with the times. Next you're going to tell me you haven't heard of CD USA Chivas.
     
  7. seahawkdad

    seahawkdad Spoon!!!

    Jun 2, 2000
    Lincoln, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am just 'aghast' :(
    Can you imagine cities competing to find land for a soccer stadium?
    I am exceedlingly jealous of ReAl.
     
  8. purojogo

    purojogo Member

    Sep 23, 2001
    US/Peru home
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's always good to see an MLS club beat an MFL counterpart, even if only in a 'friendly'
     
  9. Rocket

    Rocket Member

    Aug 29, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Correct, scaryice.

    Assuming they conducted a random sample, the poll's margin of error would be about 6%.
     
  10. Agogwe

    Agogwe Member

    Sep 12, 2003
    Ann Arbor, MI
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is that for real? Do you really call someone from Utah a "Utahn"? Or is it more a local thing and I'm just missing something?
     
  11. SoulflyTribeFC

    SoulflyTribeFC New Member

    Mar 24, 2002
    i think that's for real
     
  12. PumaJohnny

    PumaJohnny Member

    Nov 30, 2001
    Draper
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's more preferred than 'Utard' :)
     
  13. chayes

    chayes New Member

    Feb 29, 2000
    Raleigh, NC
    Accurate?

    Tell that to all the exit polls that had Kerry winning in a landslide.
     
  14. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not to get political, but most of the late pre-election (not exit) polls I heard had Bush winning about 51-49 or so, which was pretty close to the actual result. 300 is a good number, especially for a state the size of Utah.
     
  15. NeilB

    NeilB Member

    Mar 17, 2000
    Mount Kisco, NY
    Don't you mean ReAL?
     
  16. Etienne_72772

    Etienne_72772 Member+

    Oct 14, 1999
    Well, that is what we had here in Chicagoland--About 5 different cities submitted serious proposals to land the Fire. Too bad Chicago wasn't one of them...
     
  17. Sachsen

    Sachsen Member+

    Aug 8, 2003
    Broken Arrow, Okla.
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    According to this article, 13% of those polled said they would "definitely" or "probably" attend an RSL game next year.

    RSL has two metro areas to draw from. From the 2000 census:
    Salt Lake-Ogden: 1,333,914
    Provo-Orem: 368,536
    Total: 1,702,450

    If everyone in that 13% group attends one game, 221,318 people will attend RSL games next year.

    Divided over 16 home games, that comes to 13,832 people per game.

    Looks like they'll fit right in. :)

    (Feel free to correct any of my figures if they are incorrect.)
     
  18. Rocket

    Rocket Member

    Aug 29, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually, the sample size needed to get a particular margin of error is independent of the population size.

    Randomly sample 300 Utahns or 300 Californians and you get a 6% margin of error in either case.
     
  19. murtaugh29

    murtaugh29 New Member

    Oct 4, 2004
    roja LOCURA
    As I remember, Chicago was actually one of the final 5. They offered an excellent location but not much addt'l financial incentive like BV.
     
  20. seahawkdad

    seahawkdad Spoon!!!

    Jun 2, 2000
    Lincoln, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, but you're more likely to get more accurate answers from the Utahns...less use of mind altering substances in that population than in La-La Land and San Fran... :D
     
  21. ButlerBob

    ButlerBob Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 13, 2001
    Evanston, IL
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    If your sample group is representative of the larger group you don't need several thousand people for it to be a valid pool. It's all about representing the demographic make up of the group you want information from.
     
  22. Spurs74

    Spurs74 Member

    Nov 10, 2003

    I read the article. And I must say that it doesn't give me too much hope that the Real Salt Lake has any chance to succeed according to the polls. Maybe it will help a pocket of the community, but c'mon to build a 20k seat stadium when only 50-60% probably wont attend a match is really asking to lose your investment
     

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