that's what you guys have been saying since 1982 but everytime an Ecuadorian team plays a peruvian team it's an almost certain win for us, check the records
Fair point to make, I agree that 2009 has been a good showing. Still, there is a sharp contrast to what we all know Uruguayan teams were capable of until about 20 years ago. Even now it has mostly been Nacional that has done relatively well in la Copa as compared to the other teams within Uruguay. That should also fall more into the success of a specific club category.
1- Brazil 2- Argentina ... 3- Mexico ... ... ... 4- Chile 5- Uruguay ... 6- USL 7-Colombia 8- MLS 9- Costa Rica 10- Paraguay
mongolito, switch Colombia to number 5 and that list becomes arguable. Don't be offended and write the list off just because Ecuador didn't make the list. To be honest, with the exception of Liga, i'm not the slightest bit impressed by anything that league has to offer.
Ecuador not making the list is the least of what I'm laughing about ... that dude does not know anything much like you.. so it was funny to actually read his list.. like really ... " is that dude serious?" Listen Mexican... why don't you get out of the CONMEBOL forums .. anda y sacate el pique que tienes conmigo so gran pedazo de mamado... and go do a mexican hat dance to take the stress away...
LIKE OMG, like i'm a 16 year old girl named Guaya. Getting back to the list. I agree about the MLS not being in the top 10, I actually would replace it with the USL.
Why do you argue with people who have already proven that they don't know what they are talking about.
Brasil (cual de los dos torneos juegas?) 2. Argentina 3. Mexico 4. Colombia - llenos de equipos chicos o mediocres? 5. chile 6. MLS? Con muchas dudas y nuevos estadios 7. Ecuador y Peru 8. 9. Uruguay y Paraguay 10
1. Brasil 2. Argentina 3. Colombia 4. mexico con Suramericanos. 5. Chile 6. Ecuador 7. paraguay 8. Uruguay 9. Peru 10. Venezuela 11. Bolivia 12. MLS 13. USL 14. Honduras 15. las islas Caribena's a puro Coco 16. Mexico sin Suramericano
como van las cosas por ahora solo fijandome en los resultados de Libertadores... despues de que pase el group stage esta lista cambia muchisimo Brasil (3 group leaders, and one close to qualify, nuff said) Chile (you see i recognise when you guys are better ) Argentina (thanks to Bocas winning streak... ) Uruguay (Nacional is doing what penarol didnt.. auch) Peru (nice improvement the 2 teams probably in the next stage) Colombia(because Dim pass the preliminary, saves from being lower) Ecuador (group 2 will define many things) Venezuela (once again group 2 will define many things) Paraguay (nacional and guarani outshadow Libertad great work) Mexico (Pashooca didnt qualify, san luis is in border of elimination, and guadalajara have to beat Everton in Chile to qualify MLS Puerto Rico Haiti Primera A Haiti Primera B Costa Rica
1. Brasil -------------------- 2. Argentina =================== 3. Chile 4. Peru 5. Paraguay 6. Colombia 7. Ecuador 8. Mexico ==================== 9. Venezuela 10. MLS 11. Costa Rica 12. Bolivia Brasil is the best so far, even a relatively unknown team is doing better than most of the big teams from other countries. Argentina thanks to the big number of teams should have 2 or 3 advancing. After that Chile, Peru and Paraguay seem to be doing very fine, while Colombia, Ecuador and Mexico are struggling to survive. Venezuela is doing fine in the group round, but I doubt they'll advance further than that. MLS and Costa Rica are still unproved and Bolivia is simply awful.
Which Ones? Colombia? 1978 Details Boca Juniors 0 - 0 (A) / 4 - 0 (H) Points: 3 - 1 Deportivo Cali 1985 Details Argentinos Juniors 1 - 0 (H) / 0 - 1 (A) Points: 2 -Play-off: 1 - 1 (N) a.e.t. (5-4 p.k.) América de Cali 1986 Details River Plate 2 - 1 (A) / 1 - 0 (H) Points: 4 - 0 América de Cali 1987 Peñarol 0 - 2 (A) / 2 - 1 (H) Points: 2 - 2Play-off: 1 - 0 (N) a.e.t. América de Cali 1989 Campeon Atlético Nacional 0 - 2 (A) / 2 - 0 (H) Aggregate: 2 - 2 (5-4 p.k.) Olimpia 1995 Details Grêmio 3 - 1 (H) / 1 - 1 (A) Aggregate: 4 - 2 Atlético Nacional 1996 Details River Plate 0 - 1 (A) / 2 - 0 (H) Aggregate: 2 - 1 América de Cali 1999 Details Palmeiras 0 - 1 (A) / 2 - 1 (H) Aggregate: 2 - 2 (4-3 p.k.) Deportivo Cali 2004 Campeon Once Caldas 0 - 0 (A) / 1 - 1 (H) Aggregate: 1 - 1 (2-0 p.k.) Boca Juniors Copa merconorte: Campeon 1998 Atlético Nacional 1999 América de Cali 2000 Atlético Nacional 2001 Millonarios yeah, LOL at Colombia!!
1. Brasil -------------------- 2. Argentina =================== 3. Chile 4. Peru 5. Paraguay 6. Colombia 7. Ecuador 7. Uruguay... 8. Mexico ==================== 9. Venezuela 10. MLS 11. Costa Rica 12. Bolivia I just realized I did not rank Uruguay... They should be 7 or 8 based on the current libertadores performances... Penarol weighs them down.. I guess they could be 6th if Defensor makes it out of the group with the two Colombian teams...
La liga peruana es bastante mala este año, hay muchos equipos "de relleno" y planteles cortos, o rarezas como el Bolo que es prácticamente sub-23 (y si siguen así van derechito al descenso), o el Chalaco que es una sub-35 y dura medio partido. Sin embargo, hay más clubes invirtiendo (San Martín, U, Vallejo, Huancayo, Aurich) y otros que se sumarán cuando resuelvan sus problemas políticos (Alianza) o presupuestales (Cristal). Creo que va a mejorar el próximo año, aunque por lo pronto la actuación de los clubes en Libertadores es aceptable.
de los 16 equipos solo 8 o 9 valen la pena equipos como el sullana, ancash, el mismo melgar, inti gas estan por las puras el chalaco inviertio plata pero solo eso en peru los que ponen el futbol son: Universitario, Alianza, Cristal, San Martin, Aurich en otro lote Vallejo, Galvez, Huancayo, CNI, Chalaco de ahi el resto es cualquier cosa menos club de 1era