The Future is Now! Ajax 2021-22 Season

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  1. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
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    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Really don't know. they did the best transfer work of any team in Europe in January by getting rid of some unproductive players and bringing in some good ones. They still have a mediocre MF and I don't rate Alegri much at all as a tactician.
     
  2. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    An easy win over an outmatched Heracles that should have been worse for the visitors. Some great goal keeping and poor finishing kept the scoreline at 3-0 for Ajax. No real outstanding performance on the day but a bunch of decent ones. Really nice goal from Kenneth Taylor and maybe transferring out Gravenberch might not be such a loss.

    Player Ratings:

    Pasveer (6) - pretty much a spectator all game long
    Blind (7) - didn't have much defending to do which was good and spent a lot of time in the offensive half
    Martinez (7) - solid until coming off late in the match
    Timber (7) - same as Martinez in terms of play
    Mazraoui (7) - nice game and had one great shot that was well saved; he is a player who will be missed
    Alvarez (6.5) - surprise starter and only a silly early YC spoiled his day; he had a late game rocket of a shot that clanged of the cross bar
    Klaassen (7.5) - got the match winner and made some very good defensive interventions
    Berghuis (6.5) - above average but not much of a factor
    Tadic (6.5) - missed a PK which almost never happens
    Haller (7) - nice goal to give Ajax breathing room
    Antony (6.5) - another player who picked up a silly YC
    Taylor (6.5) - solid performance as a sub
    Schuurs (6) - played well coming on for Martinez
    Danilo (6) - drew a late penalty
    Tagliafico (NR) - on late
    Rensch (NR) - on late

    Cup tie midweek against Vitesse and then home again against Twente next Sunday.
     
  3. Probably wouldnot have mattered, but Ajax never won without being in the lead at half time. The ref made an unbelievable blunder by giving a foul from standing at least 25 meters away, while the linesman at 5 foot away didnot think it was a foul. The vids repeat gave the linesman was right and the ref wrong:rolleyes:. It did lead to the 1-0.
     
  4. BTV802

    BTV802 BigSoccer Supporter

    AFC Ajax
    Jul 11, 2006
    Vermont
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    This is terrible news

     
  5. A bombshell, because of "Me too" issues:eek:
     
  6. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    Just came here just talk about this. What are the details? How is his Me Too stuff coming out now?
     
  7. BPBlueSox

    BPBlueSox Member

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Aug 21, 2003
    Georgia
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Are you kidding me?!!
     
  8. BPBlueSox

    BPBlueSox Member

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Aug 21, 2003
    Georgia
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    probably on the back of all the voice of holland stuff (me too related) which has been real big in the last couple weeks. Probably gave the women involved confidence to come out about this?

    this just sucks.
     
  9. aveslacker

    aveslacker Member+

    Ajax
    United States
    Apr 2, 2006
    Old Madras
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow. I was just coming to post my impressions of the game and then saw this. That's really crappy if it is because of #metoo stuff.
     
  10. It's a proven fact. When men get horny, their brains stop functioning.
     
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  11. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Overmars career in football comes to an ignominious end. No team will touch him now.
     
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  12. aveslacker

    aveslacker Member+

    Ajax
    United States
    Apr 2, 2006
    Old Madras
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I just was reading about that stuff on De Telegraaf. Pretty crazy.

    It seems the club is claiming that they acted as soon as the messages and behavior came to light, but several commentators are alleging that Van der Saar had to have known. I wonder if this ends up taking him down as well.
     
  13. Unless an email emerges adressed to him in which an allegation is put forward to him to act on, I don't think so.
     
  14. BPBlueSox

    BPBlueSox Member

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Aug 21, 2003
    Georgia
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    I don’t know… maybe after a few years some team that ends up desperate enough?? It’s hard to say with these things. Sometimes given someone’s repentance they might get another chance. Regardless, I hope the guy gets it figured out. Shameful. And hopefully the women aren’t permanently damaged by what happened.
     
  15. BTV802

    BTV802 BigSoccer Supporter

    AFC Ajax
    Jul 11, 2006
    Vermont
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Mike Verweij speculating on the Telesport podcast that due to his close relationship with Overmars, this all but guarantees EtH is gone after this season.
     
  16. aveslacker

    aveslacker Member+

    Ajax
    United States
    Apr 2, 2006
    Old Madras
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There was always a chance he was going to move on anyway. I know he's had to fend off "bigger" clubs already.
     
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  17. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Its gonna depend on how bad the texts were. If they're not TOO bad he might get a 2nd chance at another club, but probably never at Ajax.

    If they were Harvey Weinstein type texts he's done forever
     
  18. Uhm, it were dickpics.
     
  19. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
  20. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
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  21. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    This makes me both incredibly angry, and incredibly sad
     
  22. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    #648 PuckVanHeel, Feb 7, 2022
    Last edited: Feb 7, 2022
    NRC says there is also a player involved, after talks with a dozen female employees:
    https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2022/02/07/de-appjes-van-marc-overmars-werden-almaar-dwingender-a4084706

    This is a sad passage:

    "Ajax's latest annual report shows that 26 percent of the 408 full-time employees are women. According to insiders, general director Van der Sar is in favor of more women in management positions. The same Van der Sar recently sent an email to all employees. It was five days after the report about sexual misconduct and abuse of power in talent show The Voice of Holland. He wrote to give “renewed attention” to this subject. "We will be assisted by a specialized external party to ensure that we receive independent and expert advice."

    In the e-mail, Van der Sar says what employees can do to make complaints speakable and refers to the complaints procedure and the whistleblower procedure. He writes that Ajax "is already doing and will do everything it can" to support reporters. He mentions the names of an external confidential counselor and the two 'trust contacts' of the club.

    "This is a sensitive subject, but I certainly don't want to avoid it," Van der Sar concludes the internal email. "As soon as the advice is finalized, I'll get back to you with an update."

    Twelve days later Ajax sends the press release that Marc Overmars is leaving immediately."


    According to AD, Overmars had the nickname 'filthy uncle' and Van der Sar 'the friendly father'.
    https://www.bd.nl/nederlands-voetbal/grensoverschrijdend-gedrag-marc-overmars-al-veel-langer-bekend-binnen-ajax~ad9bf7db/?referrer=https://www.google.com/


    Unsurprisingly, the folks Derksen and Gijp you mention with their canteen humour struggle to find an attitude.
     
  23. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord


    Add to this the breaking of corona rules in Portugal (triggered by Overmars!)

     
  24. richsavare

    richsavare Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jan 28, 2003
    New Jersey
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Overmars WTF?
    Ridiculous and stupid.
    Shameful behavior that hurts and embarrasses the club.
    Ten Hag will definitely leave after the season so that is going to hurt too.
    Any thoughts on who replaces Overmars and even Ten Hag?
    So much to play for, but this is shocking.
     

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