Zypern:Deutschland 15.11.06 Euro 08 Qualifikation [R]

has kiessling only scored one goal?

maybe he meant that kiessling's overall play will fit into the national team well.
and that he is confident that he will find better goalscoring form soon too...

there's more to being a good striker than just the goals.. (eg. klose sets up as much as he scores, and works extremely well off the ball by manipulating the defence with runs)

thats the theory anyway, not sure if kiessling fulfills it.

 

Dude, Kiessling is seriously overrated. He's good. He doesn't suck, but he's not "A-Nationalmannschaft" good.

There's a reason Hans Meyer had his ass on FCN's bench for quite awhile near the end of last season. He wasn't Nuernberg's third best striker at that time. 5M for that guy? They robbed Leverkusen.

You want a set-up guy, name a midfielder. Strikers on the national team need to score goals.

They don't have to be "top scorers", but they need to be capable and ready. I just don't believe Kiessling is. There a world of difference between U-21 and A-International.

 

Oliver Neuville might be "old", but he can still play a bit. I'd still rather see him in the Germany shirt than that f#cking overrated Kiessling.

IMO, the top two young German strikers (Of course after Podolski and Klose) are Gomez and Helmes, but Helmes is hurt.

Dude, I'd take KSC's Federico on the national team before Kiessling.

I'm not completely impressed with Schlaudraff as everyone else seems to be, but he's another I'd put before Kiessling.

Hanke too.

I'd take Kuranyi now. He might be "Kuranyi", but at least he's actually done something at the highest level before.

Germany is not without talent at the striker position. I think Loew will make the best decisions.

Even if he decides for that overrated Kiessling........

 

Probably as a bench player, but yeah, I could see that happening.

Totally agree!

I've seen him play a number of times. Classic poacher. Can play some midfield too. He'll be in the 1. Liga next season. Whether it be with KSC or someone else.

Transfermarkt.de shows that his contract is up after this season. If KSC wins promotion, he'd be smart to stay there, but I would not be surprised if some big named 1. Liga teams put pre-contracts in front of him at the winter break. Including our favorite clubs TOLH........

Depends on what kind of player you need. I don't rate Schlaudraff as highly because anyone can have a "hot streak" or just a good season. I want to see that he's the real thing. Therefore, I would take Hanke over Kiessling and Schlaudraff.

Schlaudraff may be the "it" player now, but let's see if he can keep it up.......

 

Kuranyi should partner podolski. he is playing well

http://football.guardian.co.uk/breakingnews/feedstory/0,,-6230415,00.html

 

Of course playing well for the U-21 doesn't guarantee anything but you have to judge a young player on something when he has no caps for the senior team.

Yea, Kiessling isn't a candidate for topscorer but he is a hard worker on the field and plays well with his team. Look, we're not looking for someone to displace Podolski or Klose, just another young German striker to get a try out for the NT.

Besides, if we are going to give players like Schlaudraff and Helmes a go why the heck not Kiessling?

 

Just wondering....what is this angst that so many people seem to have with Kuranyi? I was talking with a friend of mine on Saturday while watching the Werder game about who the other forward should be for the Czech game since Klose will be out. I mentioned Kuranyi as a possibility up front with Podolski and he acted like I spoke some sort of offensive sacrilige. Granted, he's a hardcore, unforgiving Werder fan and I seem to remember Kuranyi scoring a painful goal against us earlier in the season. But he was already badmouthing him before that game. Kuranyi is definitely in form right now (we'll see if he still is in March) and I think he would definitely do some good up front.

 

The match against the Czech is 4 months away. Schladraff, Kuranyi, Gomez, Kiessling will be good calls to Germany and they're in-form now.

It will be nice to use the next friendly (-ies) to test the mantle of the new combination of strikers.

 

what games do germany have before the czech game?

 

07.02.2007 Germany - Switzerland Düsseldorf
24.03.2007 EURO qualifier: Czech Republic - Germany

02.06.2007 EURO qualifier: Germany - San Marino Nürnberg
06.06.2007 EURO qualifier: Germany - Slovakia Hamburg
08.09.2007 EURO qualifier: Wales - Germany

13.10.2007 EURO qualifier: Republic of Ireland - Germany

17.10.2007 EURO qualifier: Germany - Czech Republic München
17.11.2007 EURO qualifier: Germany - Cyprus Hannover
21.11.2007 EURO qualifier: Germany - Wales Frankfurt

 

Simple. At least the others are producing. Kiessling is not.

 

NEWSFLASH: BVB desperate to sign Kiessling!!

 

Funny. The word we got are that they are interested in Schlaudraff......

BTW, did you happen to notice where Kiessling started this weekend's match??

 

heheh


um nope, where did he start the game? i havent seen any pictures of the BL from the past weekend.

 

As long as Kießling doesn't start producing he shouldn't be anywhere near the nt. Hunt and Gomez deserve a chance. I think the latter would be a good partner to Poldi.

 

ohhhh nice one i cracked up at the picture..


but at least it makes it easier for BVB to get him now right?




but whats the story with gomez? his background? half german half spanish?

 

BVB wouldn't touch him with a ten-foot pole. We've already got enough strikers who don't produce.

I don't think we'll be stupid enough to bail out Leverkusen after FCN totally ripped them off on Kiessling as Bremen ripped us on Valdez.......

Believe me, I don't remember laughing harder at anything in football than I did when I read Leverkusen put down 5M for Kiessling.

The second stupidest thing was BVB plunking down 4.5 for Valdez.

Both players are "good", but nowhere near worth the money they went for.

I can't say that I know. All I know is that he's going to play for Germany.....

 

i want to see hunt, gomez, helmes given a go

and the all time great stehan kiessling in the near future too.

the thing is that he might suddenly turn out really good for the national team...and then that will give him the confidence to do well for leverkusen as well...

 

I can help with that ^^ This is a part of an fifa.com article :

[...]
One thing the 21-year-old is clear about, however, is that if he is to play international football, it will be for Germany, and not his father's homeland Spain. "I've been playing underage football for the German national team since the age of 15," he explained, "and I've already made 50 international appearances. When the call comes to play senior international football, it will be from Germany.

Of course, his preference is not intended to belittle his Spanish roots. His father's family hail from Granada in Andalucia, and the player says he has both Spanish and German blood coursing through his veins: "It's a good mix," he insists. "I'm proud to be half-Spanish, half-German."

His Iberian background has also coloured some of his other ambitions, which include taking on Spanish opposition in the UEFA Champions League, and eventually playing in the powerful Primera Liga. "It would be marvellous to play in Spain one day, Gomez said.

Funny fact aside: Mario got interviewed by spanish reporters lately and they begged him to play for Spain. His reaction? He only laughed about it

 

Hunt and Gomez definitely. Helmes if he ever regains his health. From what I've read, he had to have another minor surgery on his foot. Some guys never return to form from foot injuries. Especially strikers!

LOL!!

Whenever he actually earns it, yes!

Yes, but it works the other way around unless you are already in the NT setup, i.e. Podolski and Odonkor.

You don't get put on the national team in hopes that you will find your form. You show your form with your club and then you earn a shot at the national team........

See Jan Schlaudraff.

 

little fairy : so he has a german mother?

footyfan : yes, it's the normal course of events for a player to excel for club and then get selected for the NT, but sometimes, a coach may take an educated "guess" and see playing ability in a player that he thinks might "come out" in a different environment like the NT.

it doesn't happen often but maybe loew might take that educated guess...who knows..

and then BVB can go right ahead and get him!!

 

I think that only happens if the coach has a specific role in mind. Like Odonkor and his speed and crosses.

Kiessling doesn't do anything well enough to justify being looked at for a "special role". He doesn't do anything that Gomez, Hunt, Schlaudraff, etc. cannot do.

Unless you count being grossly overrated. In which case, only Schlaudraff can hold a candle to Kiessling in that category.

Just wait for Kiessling to produce, which he may eventually do. He's still a good player. Then, he will get his chance.

As you see, I don't rate him as highly as the German press and some of you, but again, it always does my heart good to see a boy from Bamberg making good.

You're really amusing yourself with that, aren't you??

 

hmm ok well u obviously follow it better than i do since you live in germany, so i'll take your word..

so its hunt gomez and helmes for now (hope he recovers)...oh and schlaudraff too.