YNT-eligible NASL/USL players -- 2017 In-season thread

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, Mar 20, 2017.

  1. ielag

    ielag Member+

    Jul 20, 2010
    Galaxy started 3 current academy players (Sepulveda, Estrada, and Hernandez) in a 1-0 loss to Tulsa, and Arteaga came on in the 57th min.

    Vom Steeg got his 1st start.
     
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  2. ChuckMe92

    ChuckMe92 Member+

    Jun 23, 2016
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sepulveda started at left back. He's normally a left-sided CB, and a good one, but it's even better that he has that versatility. I was hoping he'd get a shot with the current U17s.
    [​IMG]
     
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  3. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    He's a little slow for LB, IMO.
     
  4. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Michael Pellegrino '01 gets the start at CM for Bethlehem Steel. I believe he's the fifth 2001 to play in the USL this year. (Sepulveda, Llanez, Koontz, Gonzalez)
     
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  5. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Some comments from the USL

    https://www.si.com/soccer/2017/10/03/usl-division-2-application-us-soccer-nasl-lawsuit-jake-edwards

    One would imagine the fifth club is either an NASL club or another MLS2 club. It's hard to envision a brand new independent club being unveiled and launching in time for the 2018 season. There isn't enough time.
     
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  6. TxEx

    TxEx Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur, Crystal Palace, FC Dallas
    Aug 19, 2016
    DFW
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    So does that mean that FCDII is in or out? At this point don't they have to say something soon to be eligible?
     
  7. ChuckMe92

    ChuckMe92 Member+

    Jun 23, 2016
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #457 ChuckMe92, Oct 8, 2017
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    I realize it's not pleasant to think he's playing for Mexico YNTs, but keep in mind he could plausibly eventually come back to the US, given he wasn't a starter for Mexico at the CONCACAF U15s. Maybe Mexico U15s are truly that dominant or perhaps there is underrating of a US-developed prospect, but he was just a sub. Not saying he won't make it with El Tri, but clearly there is a difficult road ahead for him. We got Jesse Gonzalez, Ulysses Llanez, Jacobo Reyes back from Mexico. And Alvarez has retweeted USYNT stuff, so he likes the US, just Mexico more.
     
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  8. Peter Bonetti

    Peter Bonetti Member+

    Jan 1, 2005
    1970 WC Quarterfinal
    DC United are planning to launch DCU II in 2019. A lot could change between now and then though
     
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  9. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    You seem very connected with DC United, so let me ask you a question, and this is the wrong thread for this, but who cares?

    Have you heard anything about Moses Nyeman ('03) on the team's U-17's?

    He's probably the youngest player in the country regularly playing at the U-17 level in the DA, and I saw a few games posted on youtube, he looks the clear standout player on the field playing against much older players. The other standout player in the '03 age group we've heard about Dante Sealy (FC Dallas) didn't look anywhere near as good against players the same age, which I'd say is normal, but underscores how impressive Nyeman has been.
     
  10. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Noah Verhoeven '99, a US/Canada dual national, made his debut for Whitecaps II yesterday. He was called into the US U18s earlier this year.
     
  11. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    As far as I can tell, we've heard squadoosh about FCDII for quite a while now.
    However, its pretty clear that the relationship between FCD and OKC has turned for the worse. They have a bunch of youngsters that need playing time, and they're not sending them to OKC. I can't remember the last time OKC played an FCD loanee. They actually signed Carlos Avilez to a USL contract with OKC, and he's playing for FCD U19s in the academy instead.

    I think we can all agree that FCD's strategy with their USLPro or reserves needs to change dramatically for 2018. I don't know if Hunt wants to spend the money on that, though. When he talks money, he typically mentions the amount of money they're spending on the Hall of Fame and accompanying stadium renovation.
     
  12. Peter Bonetti

    Peter Bonetti Member+

    Jan 1, 2005
    1970 WC Quarterfinal
    Haven’t been following DC United nearly as closely since I got back into coaching youth soccer myself. I spend my time coaching my own players now and less time observing others.

    Also I don’t get nearly as excited about their youth prospects after watching Jorge Calix. He was amazing playing up as a 14 to 15-year-old with the u18s, but then they didn’t have anywhere for him to go. He started stagnating and by the time he went to the university of Maryland he wasn’t really anything special at that point.

    Short answer - no, I haven’t been watching DC United’s academy lately.
     
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  13. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [​IMG]
     
  14. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    NCFC continued its trolling of DC United, announcing the signing of '99 Nelson Blanco, who is called an El Salvador native but is listed as American by the USSDA.
     
  15. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Andrew Lombard, who missed much of the season with injury, finally made his NYRB II debut tonight.

    He left the game late in the first half with an injury.
     
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  16. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Roberto Hategan '01 made his debut in Sacramento's final game, coming on in the 89th minute. Probably more of a symbolic gesture at the end of the season than a sign he's near first team minutes, but who knows. He has three goals in seven U19 games so far this season in the DA, where his profile calls him Nicholas Hategan.

    http://sacr.ussoccerda.com/sam/teams/index.php?team=1401566&player=44712917
     
  17. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I haven't checked my numbers, so it's possible I made a mistake somewhere along the way, but here are the final regular season minutes for YNT eligible players in the USL. The NASL regular season still has another couple of weeks.

    52,882 USL minutes went to YNT eligible players born in 1997 or later in 2017. That's up from 28,500 USL minutes to players born in 1996 or later in 2016.

    Exactly 96 YNT eligible players appeared in 2017, while 69 similarly aged players (96-later) appeared in 2016.

    First, minutes by club.

    13200 -- LA Galaxy II
    9333 -- T2
    6786 -- Bethlehem
    6718 -- S2
    3201 -- Orlando City B
    2664 -- SPR
    1935 -- Tulsa
    1782 -- Orange County
    1278 -- NYRB II
    990 -- Richmond
    844 -- San Antonio
    698 -- Saint Louis
    644 -- Charleston
    634 -- RGV
    516 -- Pittsburgh
    503 -- Reno
    305 -- OKC
    286 -- Vancouver Whitecaps 2
    269 -- Real Monarchs
    265 -- Cincinnati
    30 -- Colorado Springs
    1 -- Sacramento Republic
    0 -- Charlotte, Harrisburg, Louisville, Ottawa, Phoenix, Rochester, Tampa Bay, Toronto FC II

    I'll sort players by birth year:

    1997
    2085 -- Augustine Williams (T2)
    2083 -- Adrian Vera (LA Galaxy II)
    1935 -- Collin Fernandez (Tulsa)
    1230 -- Lorenzo Ramos (S2)
    950 -- Zach Kobayashi (Orange County)
    880 -- Jonathan Hernandez (LA Galaxy II)
    832 -- Amirgy Pineda (Orange County)
    798 -- Derrick Jones (Bethlehem)
    633 -- Christian Lucatero (RGV)
    630 -- Bennett Sneddon (LA Galaxy II)
    508 -- Yosef Samuel (Bethlehem)
    503 -- Jackson Yueill (Reno)
    472 -- Miles Robinson (Charleston)
    412 -- Abuchi Obinwa (Pittsburgh)
    408 -- Jeremy Ebobisse (T2)
    405 -- Erik Palmer-Brown (SPR)
    360 -- Justin Vom Steeg (LA Galaxy II)
    327 -- Victor Mansaray (FC Cincinnati/S2) [now with a third tier Swedish club]
    305 -- Coy Craft (OKC)
    269 -- Sebastian Saucedo (Real Monarchs)
    171 -- Tyler Feeley (St Louis)
    104 -- Ben Swanson (Pittsburgh)
    90 -- Tommy Redding (Orlando City B)
    42 -- Andrew Lombard (NYRB II)

    1998
    2180 -- Pierre da Silva (Orlando City B)
    2160 -- Auston Trusty (Bethlehem)
    2071 -- Ethan Zubak (LA Galaxy II)
    1654 -- Lamar Batista (T2)
    1329 -- Robert Castellanos (LA Galaxy II)
    1322 -- Felipe Hernandez (SPR)
    1260 -- Hugo Arellano (LA Galaxy II)
    777 -- Wan Kuzain Wan Kamal (SPR)
    766 -- Shandon Hopeau (S2)
    723 -- *Blake Bodily (T2) [now at Washington]
    716 -- Devin Vega (San Antonio)
    707 -- Marco Farfan (T2)
    596 -- *Kevin O'Toole (NYRB II) [now at Princeton]
    540 -- *Mark McKenzie (Bethlehem) [now at Wake Forest]
    515 -- Ryley Kraft (Orlando City B)
    511 -- Terrell Lowe (T2)
    430 -- *Jacob Montes (T2) [now at Georgetown]
    364 -- *Alex Juarez (LA Galaxy II) [now at Cal State Fullerton]
    270 -- Danny Barbir (Vancouver 2)
    268 -- *Milo Barton (S2)
    251 -- Joe Gallardo (Orlando City B)
    160 -- *David Loera (Orlando City B) [now at NC State]
    155 -- *Dawson McCartney (Bethlehem) [now at Dartmouth]
    128 -- Connor Presley (San Antonio)
    118 -- *Jackson Ragen (S2) [now at Michigan]
    92 -- Lagos Kunga (Charleston)
    90 -- *Ethan Lotenero (S2)
    30 -- *Joe Hafferty (S2) [now at Oregon State]
    17 -- *Tiger Graham (Bethlehem) [now at Dartmouth]
    15 -- *Jose Perez (T2)

    1999
    2250 -- Sam Rogers (S2)
    1876 -- Harold Hanson (T2)
    1517 -- Matthew Real (Bethlehem)
    1080 -- Eric Lopez (LA Galaxy II)
    693 -- Anthony Fontana (Bethlehem)
    527 -- *Aedan Stanley (St Louis)
    485 -- *Kazu Shigenobu (NYRB II)
    471 -- *Ian Lonergan (LA Galaxy II)
    242 -- *Carlos Anguiano (T2)
    90 -- *Eric Payeras (LA Galaxy II) [now at Cerritos College]
    30 -- Damen Marcu (Colorado Springs)
    23 -- *Paul Rothrock (S2) [now at Notre Dame]
    16 -- *Noah Verhoeven (Vancouver 2)
    12 -- *Kei Tomozawa (S2) [now at Stanford]

    2000
    990 -- Chris Durkin (Richmond)
    766 -- *Jorge Hernandez (LA Galaxy II)
    682 -- *Giovanni Calixtro (T2)
    535 -- *Jake Arteaga (LA Galaxy II)
    450 -- *Khai Brisco (S2)
    349 -- *Jonathan Estrada (LA Galaxy II)
    320 -- *Zico Bailey (LA Galaxy II)
    203 -- *Brendan Aaronson (Bethlehem)
    198 -- *Alex Mendez (LA Galaxy II)
    180 -- *Sam Fowler (S2)
    160 -- *Max Rugova (SPR)
    155 -- *Ben Mines (NYRB II)
    116 -- *Dylan Teves (S2)
    80 -- Chris Goslin (Charleston)
    63 -- *Cameron Martin (S2)
    9 -- *Issa Rayyan (Bethlehem)
    6 -- *Seth Kuhn (Bethlehem)
    5 -- *Allen Seals (Orlando City B)
    1 -- *Jessie Ortiz (RGV)

    2001

    630 -- *Christian Koontz (S2)
    360 -- *Leo Sepulveda (LA Galaxy II)
    340 -- Azriel Gonzalez (S2)
    180 -- *Michael Pellegrino (Bethlehem)
    9 -- *Uly Llanez (LA Galaxy II)
    1 -- Ricardo Hategan (Sacramento)

    2002
    90 -- *Alfonso Ocampo-Chavez (S2)
     
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  18. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Here's some coverage of (possible) USL El Paso.

    http://www.elpasotimes.com/story/ne...hihuahuas-seek-soccer-team-stadium/755769001/

    Would be interesting to see whether the El Paso/Las Cruces area, which sends a pretty steady stream of young players to Mexico and elsewhere, could be a beneficiary of its talent base. UTEP and NMSU do not offer D1 soccer; UNM and ENMSU are pretty far from town.

    Of course, there is also a team across the border right now.
     
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  19. kba4life1

    kba4life1 Member+

    Jul 14, 2010
    Irvine, CA
    I'm guessing an FC Dallas USL team is not going to happen for 2018?
     
  20. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    More Texas news:

    A new Multi-Purpose Event Venue (MPEV) in Amarillo is being designed both for a Double-A Texas League Minor League Baseball team and USL soccer, fulfilling the vision put to voters several years ago for the downtown facility.​

    https://soccerstadiumdigest.com/2017/08/amarillo-as-a-future-usl-market/

    I like MPEVs as much as the next guy, but if we're being honest I'm also a big fan of UAVs.

    [​IMG]
     
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  21. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Also, now that there's all kinds of discussion of MLS Columbus moving to Austin -- that's one more city in play in various ways. (They had a USL team, then it took a year off, then ... who knows, now.) The pro soccer situation in Texas feels very much in play between MLS and lower-division teams.
     
  22. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    It's Czechoslovakia. It's like going into Wisconsin!
     
  23. Kombucha

    Kombucha Member+

    Jul 1, 2016
    Club:
    --other--
    Rumors at Whitecaps 2 and OCB won’t be back in 2018
     
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  24. dwsmith1972

    dwsmith1972 BigSoccer Supporter

    May 11, 2007
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I got the shit kicked out of me in Wisconsin once!
     
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