Worst run FO in the league?

Discussion in 'Philadelphia Union' started by local136RiverRat, Mar 6, 2013.

  1. LiverpoolFanatic

    Liverpool FC, Philadelphia Union
    Feb 19, 2000
    Lancaster, PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Translation: We are minor league, low rent if you will, but we do have a Chief Tattoo Artist and an absurd mascot, so...yeah. We're good.
     
  2. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It amazes me how many MLS clubs are doubling down on the narrative that churning out players and selling them is more important than having a competitive team... this is the second time this week an MLS FO person pointed to Bilbao as a model club..(Chicago fires Nelson Rodriguez was the other). I can only assume they attended the same seminar on how to spin things to fans... Not to say Bilbao doesn’t have an amazing track recird of development, but they haven’t won jack shit in the last 30 years either. Ajax is great at what they do too, but the Eredivisie is what it is...that model will never translate 1:1 with MLS.

    Ambition to win is what matters most... Development might help you get there, but there’s much more to it than that... it’s so clear that isn’t the top priority for most teams. Modeling ourselves after mid table European team selling clubs isn’t a reality that most people will accept.
     
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  3. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2853 Darkwing McQuack, Jan 12, 2019
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    The teams with this mindset are generally the ones with no ambition to win anything.
     
  4. DoctorD

    DoctorD Member+

    Sep 29, 2002
    MidAtlantic
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLS will never be a successful selling league. Our costs are simply too high. Let's say MLS develops players who are as good as English, German, or French clubs. Why should the big leagues buy an American player vs one of their own or a cheaper South American player?

    Plus, "selling leagues" or "selling teams" never get better.
     
  5. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Plus quite a bit of the players the league have sold didn’t pan out all that well. Manly because the player made the jump to Europe to quick. Yea some of those transfer fees where nice, but it seems like teams in Europe may be wising up a bit and not buying players for absurd amounts. Think that’s why Almiron hasn’t moved yet.
     
  6. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ajax actually wins quite few trophies still (33 League, and 18 Cup). Athletic made it to the Europa League final a few seasons ago, and won the Spanish Super Cup.

    This has no bearing on how the Union continue to languish/flounder in the Philadelphia Market & MLS though.
     
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  7. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Got a 2018 Matchday Experience Survey in my email today...

    Some Highlights/a Mini-summary:



    If we played a 10th season Commemorative Match in Philadelphia, where would you like to see that match played?*
    Lincoln Financial Field
    Franklin Field (Univ. of Penn.)
    Citizens Bank Park



    If the Union were to have its own soccer-specific bar/restaurant, where would you like it to be located? *
    University City, Philadelphia
    South Philadelphia - Stadium Area
    South Philadelphia - Queens Village/Passyunk
    Rittenhouse Square,
    Philadelphia Northern Liberties,
    Philadelphia Fishtown,
    Philadelphia Center City,
    Philadelphia Bucks County
    Delaware County
    Montgomery County
    Old City, Philadelphia
    Other:



    And some interesting rankings to give out... I slammed them on a lot of these.

    The Union have a well-known rivalry with another MLS club
    The Union play an exciting style of soccer
    The Union have a strong pipeline for Youth Development
    The Union organization provides a sense of belonging
    The Union's values reflect that of the city of Philadelphia
    The Union are a competitive club within MLS
    The Union provide an authentic soccer experience
    Talen Energy Stadium is a place where you can express your passion for soccer
    Talen Energy Stadium's location is convenient
    The Union receive lots of media coverage in the Delaware Valley
    The Union are a championship contending team




    Also had the normal "Game Day Experience" type questions... asked what you think of the 2018 Doop Hoops jersey. (I said "Unsatisfactory")

    A nice area for comments that I wrote a mini-essay complaining about Jay Sugarman, the lack of ambition and spending money.

    Ranking the TV broadcast team and the overall PHL/6ABC broadcasts.

    And then some other general questions about other sports/leagues.
     
  8. derek750

    derek750 Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [​IMG]
     
  9. celt1997

    celt1997 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 31, 2006
    Philly Burbs
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What I wouldn't give to see the raw data on this one. Can't say I've ever held back on any of these, and I was particularly harsh this year.
     
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  10. sentrido

    sentrido Member

    Jul 9, 2010
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    That's like one of those questions pollsters put in to see who is really paying attention so they know which results to just throw out.
     
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  11. Cherry Hill SOB

    Cherry Hill SOB Member+

    Aug 30, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    In fairness, they have "contended" for the US Open "championship" three times.
     
  12. DoctorD

    DoctorD Member+

    Sep 29, 2002
    MidAtlantic
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Come on, they're definitely a contender. So what if they contend and end up in the middle of the pack. Everybody else is contending too.
     
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  13. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's a leading tagline contender right there!
     
  14. derek750

    derek750 Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  15. buzzkiller23

    buzzkiller23 Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Glenolden, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Guess there's no vote for Chester other than Delaware County.
     
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  16. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The 10th anniversary commemorative game will probably be the free one for STHs.
     
  17. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    yeah - found that one interesting.




    Clearly a friendly against the famous Netflix star Sunderland
     
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  18. Union42

    Union42 Member+

    Jul 29, 2013
    Swarthmore, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "Other"
     
  19. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It really would be awesome to have bar to go pre-game.. but I get it... what the hell is going to happen to that place the other ~348 days of the year? Probably just sit empty.
    It's a shame... Houston has a collection of bars right outside of their stadium, it's fantastic.
     
  20. breslinp

    breslinp Member+

    Jan 20, 2010
    Malvern, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And a reason why BBVA Compass stadium is mostly empty?
     
  21. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sure. But Minute Maid Park is right on the other side of I-69. Same with the Toyota Center. And the Convention Center.

    TES doesn't have those types of neighbors.
     
  22. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Houston seems to be neck and neck with the Union when it comes to incompetence... that building is downtown and beautiful. I'm stunned they can't fill it up.
     
  23. drewuke

    drewuke Member+

    Jul 19, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    MLS needs to fix their Texas teams, so of course they threw another team at them.

    [​IMG]
     
  24. Union42

    Union42 Member+

    Jul 29, 2013
    Swarthmore, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1. They play in Texas in the summer. It's hot. It's humid. No one wants to go sit and watch a team for two hours in that climate. People say MLS can't switch to the international calendar because of the northern teams...true, but the same arguement can be made against the summer calendar because of the southern teams.
     
  25. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’d bake before freezing 10/10 times.
     
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