World Cup:Possible Groupings

"Eisenfuß" Eilts · Nov 16, 2005

Re: PREVIEW: World Cup, Germany and our GROUP

bltleo said:

do you want USA as well?

Funny how many people want to have USA in our group.
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Well, if USA and Germany are in the same group,
they could play the next time soonest in final.

bltleo · Nov 16, 2005

Re: PREVIEW: World Cup, Germany and our GROUP

[QUOTE="Eisenfuß" Eilts]Well, if USA and Germany are in the same group,
they could play the next time soonest in final. [/QUOTE]

AHA my dream finale: USA-GERMANY

I should make some bet on this finale game.

I told it many many times on american board.
But they don´t believe me.

I think USA-Germany are in finale.

italia2006 · Nov 16, 2005

Re: PREVIEW: World Cup, Germany and our GROUP

bltleo said:

AHA my dream finale: USA-GERMANY

I should make some bet on this finale game.

I told it many many times on american board.
But they don´t believe me.

I think USA-Germany are in finale.
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that would be the most unwatched final in world cup history

ForeverRed · Nov 16, 2005

Re: PREVIEW: World Cup, Germany and our GROUP

italia2006 said:

that would be the most unwatched final in world cup history
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also the most unlikely, well not MOST unlikely but theres no chance in hell the US is reaching the final.

italia2006 · Nov 16, 2005

Re: PREVIEW: World Cup, Germany and our GROUP

ForeverRed said:

also the most unlikely, well not MOST unlikely but theres no chance in hell the US is reaching the final.
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every world cup some u.s. player comes out and says they can win it!!, lol

bltleo · Nov 17, 2005

Re: PREVIEW: World Cup, Germany and our GROUP

italia2006 said:

that would be the most unwatched final in world cup history
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WHY???

scorpio81 · Nov 17, 2005

Re: PREVIEW: World Cup, Germany and our GROUP

a few groups id like to see taking into account my own interests and of course, the probably seedings...

germany
switzerland
ecuador
saudi arabia!

germany get easy ride into next round

holland
usa
south korea
australia

the yanks to finish in last place in this group cos im sick of hearing how good the team is when they hardly play any meaningful competition... no offence to the american posters here, but their qualification format is a joke and i believe the australians and some asians are better than the USA...this is in my own interests and id love an opportunity for them to prove this...

brazil
portugal
czech republic/poland/ukraine
japan

japan gave brazil a tough time at the confed cup and im tired of seeing the brazilians get a free ride into the KO stages with easy first round groups... this is the toughest test i can come up with keeping the seeding restrictions in mind...

bltleo · Nov 17, 2005

Re: PREVIEW: World Cup, Germany and our GROUP

Yes Switzerland or Spain in German group would be great.
And Saudi Arabia.

Looks like Americans wants to have the similar group with Switzerland and
Saudi Arabia.

Switzerland are favorite country for both

No one will Holland, Czech Republic.

Some Americans wish Germany in their group. But I think many of them underestimate our team. They just think of revange for World Cup 2002.

Bltleo M
from the city that Landon left

Matschr · Nov 17, 2005

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It's funny. On every World Cup people say Germany isn't one of the top favorites: but why no team reached the final as often as Germany? Hm ...

bltleo · Nov 17, 2005

Re: PREVIEW: World Cup, Germany and our GROUP

Matschr said:

It's funny. On every World Cup people say Germany isn't one of the top favorites: but why no team reached the final as often as Germany? Hm ...
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Excellent answer!!
I can not agree more with you.

bltleo · Nov 17, 2005

Re: PREVIEW: World Cup, Germany and our GROUP

DF could you change the name of this thread so some reasonable, more
understable way

I think the name of thread I have given is not so good.

Blt

"Eisenfuß" Eilts · Nov 18, 2005

Re: PREVIEW: World Cup, Germany and our GROUP

Guys, enough speculated:

Here are the pots for the draw:
Pot 1:
Germany, Brasil, Italy, Spain,
Argentine, England, Mexiko, France
Pot 2:
Holland, USA, Schweden, Czech Republic,
South Korea, Croatia, Portugal, Japan
Pot 3:
Paraguay, Costa Rica, Saudi-Arabia, Iran,
Poland, Tunisia, Serbia, Ecuador
Pot 4:
Ivory Coast, Schwitzerland, Angola, Ghana,
Togo, Trinidad & Tobago, Australia, Ukraine

plus: maximum 2 countries from the same continent

"Eisenfuß" Eilts · Nov 18, 2005

Re: PREVIEW: World Cup, Germany and our GROUP

Hardest possible group IMO:
Germany
Holland
Paraguay
Ivory Coast

AGF Aarhus · Nov 18, 2005

Re: PREVIEW: World Cup, Germany and our GROUP

[QUOTE="Eisenfuß" Eilts]Guys, enough speculated:

Here are the pots for the draw:
Pot 1:
Germany, Brasil, Italy, Spain,
Argentine, England, Mexiko, France
Pot 2:
Holland, USA, Schweden, Czech Republic,
South Korea, Croatia, Portugal, Japan
Pot 3:
Paraguay, Costa Rica, Saudi-Arabia, Iran,
Poland, Tunisia, Serbia, Ecuador
Pot 4:
Ivory Coast, Schwitzerland, Angola, Ghana,
Togo, Trinidad & Tobago, Australia, Ukraine

plus: maximum 2 countries from the same continent[/QUOTE]

Sorry to be a pest, but ...

Are these the real pots (if so, where did you find them), or did you make them up? If they are the real pots they certainly overturn some previously held assumptions, namely that after the top seeds, the pots are determined by geography, not quality. Therefore, all of the CONCACAF teams should be in one pot, ditto the Africans, Asians and South Americans (although one team could be moved to even out the numbers). You say max two countries from the same continent, but I can't see FIFA allowing two countries from any continent other than Europe to meet in the group stage. Again, if these are the real pots I'm very surprised.

bltleo · Nov 18, 2005

DF thanks you changed the name of the thread.
It sounds much much better.

bltleo

"Eisenfuß" Eilts · Nov 20, 2005

Re: PREVIEW: World Cup, Germany and our GROUP

AGF Aarhus said:

Sorry to be a pest, but ...

Are these the real pots (if so, where did you find them), or did you make them up? If they are the real pots they certainly overturn some previously held assumptions, namely that after the top seeds, the pots are determined by geography, not quality. Therefore, all of the CONCACAF teams should be in one pot, ditto the Africans, Asians and South Americans (although one team could be moved to even out the numbers). You say max two countries from the same continent, but I can't see FIFA allowing two countries from any continent other than Europe to meet in the group stage. Again, if these are the real pots I'm very surprised.
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I found them at BILD.de, but there are also other information about them.
source: fussballforen.de

arthur d · Nov 20, 2005

Re: PREVIEW: World Cup, Germany and our GROUP

[QUOTE="Eisenfuß" Eilts]Hardest possible group IMO:
Germany
Holland
Paraguay
Ivory Coast[/QUOTE]

I think

Germany
Holland
Serbia
Ukraine

would be a bit of a bummer... possible based on the pots, but is an all European group allowed?

marco goncalves · Nov 20, 2005

Re: PREVIEW: World Cup, Germany and our GROUP

arthur d said:

I think

Germany
Holland
Serbia
Ukraine

would be a bit of a bummer... possible based on the pots, but is an all European group allowed?
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Absolutely not............

The Old Lady Hertha · Nov 20, 2005

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marco goncalves said:

Absolutely not............
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Yea...no more than 2 from each confederation.

essie_majedi · Nov 20, 2005

Group A
Germany*
Sweden*
Costa Rica
Togo

Group B
Mexico*
South Korea
Serbia and Montenegro*
Ukraine

Group C
Argentina*
Holland*
Ecuador
Ghana

Group D
Italy*
Croatia*
Paraguay
Angola

Group E
England*
USA
Iran*
Switzerland

Group F
Brazi*
Portugal*
Tunisia
Australia

Group G
France*
Czech Republic*
Saudi Arabia
Trinidad and Tabago

Group H
Spain*
Japan
Poland*
Ivory Coast

teams with * next to them i think will progress to the next round.

Dead Fingers · Nov 21, 2005

so with the exception of Mexico and Iran all the other teams will be European or S. American in the final 16? I think not.

bltleo · Nov 21, 2005

Dead Fingers said:

so with the exception of Mexico and Iran all the other teams will be European or S. American in the final 16? I think not.
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Well I think Germany will be first in our group...I really think we will have great tournament..

concerning USA...I think they will go to next round...they will not finish in first round....

USA is better than in 2002 .so I believe USMNT will be as successful as in 2002 or better...I tend to say that USA will be much better than they were last World Cup....I followed their qualifying games ...and I know USA did beat Mexico...so I would not underestimate US team.

bltleo

Dead Fingers · Nov 30, 2005

from uli
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=350665&root=worldcup&cc=5901

So, this is the result of the unofficial Soccernet 2006 World Cup finals draw:

Group A: Germany, France, Japan, Togo
Group B: Italy, Poland, Iran, Ecuador
Group C: England, Sweden, Costa Rica, Ivory Coast
Group D: Holland, Croatia, South Korea, Ghana
Group E: Mexico, Ukraine, Saudi Arabia, Paraguay
Group F: Brazil, Portugal, Czech Republic, Angola
Group G: Spain, Switzerland, USA, Tunisia
Group H: Argentina, Serbia & Montenegro, Trinidad & Tobago, Australia

bltleo · Dec 1, 2005

I think Group A good not bad...we can make it

no England or no Holland in our group...and no Brazil

Group A: Germany, France, Japan, Togo

I think this is group of life

Bltleo

Cazlon · Dec 1, 2005

Re: PREVIEW: World Cup, Germany and our GROUP

[QUOTE="Eisenfuß" Eilts]Hardest possible group IMO:
Germany
Holland
Paraguay
Ivory Coast[/QUOTE]

Replace Ivory Coast with Ghana and i tend to agree. Droghba and friends are overrated imo, while the Black Stars are much stronger than most people give them credit for. We'll have a better idea after the ANC though, if the top clubs let their players go that is.