World Cup Discussion [R]

Discussion in 'New England Revolution' started by patfan1, Jun 21, 2018.

  1. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sweden takes out Mexico 3-0, but MEX still advances after Germany falls to S Korea. Germany out.
     
  2. CB-West

    CB-West Member+

    Sep 20, 2013
    NorCal
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Entertaining day at World Cup with two games down...and two more to go...

    Who will go through from Group E?
    Can Serbia beat Brazil?
    Can Costa Rica do a So Korea and knock out Switzerland?
    And will VAR play a role?
     
  3. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Would be shocked if Serbia or CR won. Gap is just too big.
     
  4. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ten out of 14 UEFA teams advanced to the round of 16.

    Seven of the 8 matches contain at least one UEFA team. Brazil/Mexico is the only one that does not.
     
  5. Crooked

    Crooked Member+

    May 1, 2005
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    No, ironically finishing second in the group would result in a far easier path to the Final. I think it's going to be a strange game today.
     
  6. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A team that aspires to be World Champion aiming to do worse in order to have "the easier path"? Psychologically terribly counterproductive.
    It would be like aspiring to climb Everest by confining yourself to Mt. Rainier.
     
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  7. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  8. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Or it could be a matter of resting certain players or giving a border-line player who hasn't seen much action yet a run out, and not being too worried about the result.

    I think England would win the tie-breaker if they drew, but I don't think either team will be heartbroken regardless of the result. If you think you can be the best team in the world, you need to be able to beat the #3 or #5 team along the way, no matter what.
     
  9. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lineups are out, ESPN reports that Belgium changed 9 starters from the last game, and England changed eight.
     
  10. Jon Martin

    Jon Martin Member+

    Apr 25, 2000
    SE Mass
    Well that was tedious.
     
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  11. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The only good part of the England/Belgium game, and full credit to Batshuayi for being able to laugh at himself.


     
  12. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've read that but it doesn't make any sense. If you're trying to win it all, have the balls to beat whoever is in front of you. Whether it's Brazil or anyone else, it's single elimination anyway so round of 16, quarters, semis or the final - what does the opponent matter? I hate when teams try to manipulate the brackets.
     
  13. Crooked

    Crooked Member+

    May 1, 2005
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    What does the opponent matter? Seriously?

    For a path to the final:
    Colombia > Switzerland > Spain
    Japan > Brazil > France

    I know which one I would prefer.
     
  14. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sure, one path may be easier than the other, but that does not mean it is the best path.

    If you are the "best team in the world" you should be able to beat any team, so it shouldn't matter which teams you face.

    If a coach tells his team to play less than 100% in order to manipulate the results towards the easier path, he is sending a message to his team that he doesn't have confidence that they can succeed on the more difficult path.

    As Herm Edwards famously said:
     
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  15. Feldspar

    Feldspar Member+

    Nov 19, 1998
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The best teams know how to manipulate the situation to their advantage. Being smart is part of being best. If you see that two behemoths are going to beat each other into pudding, you’re better by picking off the weakened winner, not trying to take them both on yourself.
     
  16. Jon Martin

    Jon Martin Member+

    Apr 25, 2000
    SE Mass
    Well there you have it - the best game of the world cup so far.
     
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  17. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Glad the Argentines didn't advance. They were a disaster this World Cup and didn't deserve to move on IMO.
     
  18. rkane1226

    rkane1226 Member+

    Apr 9, 2000
    Club:
    Stade Brestois 29
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Teams like Spain should put a little more urgency on getting shots and goals. They let Russia carry them to PKs and they paid the price.
     
  19. Jon Martin

    Jon Martin Member+

    Apr 25, 2000
    SE Mass
    Happy St. Keeper's day everyone.
     
  20. Jon Martin

    Jon Martin Member+

    Apr 25, 2000
    SE Mass
    Gary Lineker: "Messi is the first player in World Cup history to be a false 9 and a false coach in the same game."
     
  21. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're not kidding. The ending to Croatia-Denmark and subsequent pk's was impressive. Bother keepers have a right to feel proud of that effort.
     
  22. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mexico out, lost to Brazil dos-a-cero...
     
  23. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Now I have lost the only team I was supporting in the World Cup ... "NotMexico."
     
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  24. Cannons

    Cannons Member+

    May 16, 2005
    Japan choked. They had Belgium down 2-0 then gave up 3 unanswered goals. Once Belgium figured out they were bigger and taller than the Japanese team, it was the beginning of the end. Goal #3 was the prettiest goal I've seen
     
  25. firstshirt

    firstshirt Member+

    Bayern München
    United States
    Mar 1, 2000
    Ellington, CT / NK, RI
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    that dummy by Lukaku was key
     
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