Will you watch the Women's World Cup?

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by HomietheClown, May 30, 2019.

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As a Men's team fan will you watch the Women's World Cup?

Poll closed Jun 6, 2019.
  1. Yes, all of it. Even all the blowouts and boring matches.

    13 vote(s)
    15.1%
  2. Yes, but only the USA and maybe a handful of other top teams.

    41 vote(s)
    47.7%
  3. No, I am focused on the U20, Gold Cup , Copa America, MLS, etc.

    17 vote(s)
    19.8%
  4. No, the whole Women's team equality lawsuit thing has me a bit turned off.

    11 vote(s)
    12.8%
  5. The Women are playing a World Cup?

    4 vote(s)
    4.7%
  1. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    He's bypassing the liquid phase and going straight to gas?
     
  2. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I like Grant a lot, and he does appear to be a big supporter of women's soccer.

    But I just finished his Masters of Modern Soccer interview book, and he did not interview one female.

    Sometimes, you need to read between the lines...
     
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  3. pirozhok

    pirozhok Member+

    United States
    Jul 20, 2007
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Something like that, but in a psychological way.
     
  4. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I guess he deleted that tweet, lol

    Ahh



    All good then



    I will also agree with this. I don't think it's too much to ask that they don't clash with a World Cup final.
     
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  5. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    That is the dumbest-worded apology ever (not that I think anyone should be cowed, even if they're stupid and wrong). What a tool.

    The finals are in completely different time zones. Blame FIFA for putting the WWC on an odd-year quadrennial cycle. Then blame them for switching it (hypothetically) to even off-years...oh, wait, the Olympics...
     
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  6. Sad_Commercial

    Sad_Commercial Red Card

    United States
    Jul 4, 2019
    I had to stop following him because his schtick has become so overwhelming.
     
  7. Sad_Commercial

    Sad_Commercial Red Card

    United States
    Jul 4, 2019
    For context, the men's R16 match against Belgium in 2014 did 16.4m on cable (ESPN). It did another 5.1m on Univision.

    An interesting phenomenon with the women is how poorly they do on Spanish television. When they played a Spanish speaking country (Chile and Spain) they got between 700k and 800k viewers. When they haven't they got 400k.

    The men averaged 4.95m on Univision in 2014.
     
  8. pirozhok

    pirozhok Member+

    United States
    Jul 20, 2007
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He is drifting toward social media trolling.
     
  9. GiallorossiYank

    GiallorossiYank Member+

    Jan 20, 2011
    NJ/Roma/Napoli
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does anyone have a total # of viewers per game for the WNT? I will rep you, I promise lol.
     
  10. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    Yes, hopefully the womens team can generate that kind of interest. If/when they do, they will earn the kind of money they hope for. I hope they can make it happen.
     
  11. Rezelby

    Rezelby Member

    Aug 1, 2010
    When did Grant Wahl turn into such a soy boy?
     
  12. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    Men get to play on grass in WC, but women must play on turf in a WC? WTF? I agree with them!
     
  13. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    our women do generate more $$ than our men
     
  14. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    No it doesn't. "Deprived" is not = to human rights. Women not having the vote, even rich women, was a human rights issue.
     
  15. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    That's quite an interesting take.

    Let's see the hard data.
     
  16. Mantis Toboggan M.D.

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jul 8, 2017
    [​IMG]
     
  17. SpencerNY

    SpencerNY Member+

    Dec 1, 2001
    Up in the skyway


    Okie dokie Grant, I’ll watch the women in the morning and men in the evening. How horrible that we have to watch two sporting events with 10 hours of each other.
     
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  18. Sad_Commercial

    Sad_Commercial Red Card

    United States
    Jul 4, 2019
    They don't.
     
  19. pirozhok

    pirozhok Member+

    United States
    Jul 20, 2007
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Source?
     
  20. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Probably talking about the WSJ article about game revenues again.
     
  21. Sad_Commercial

    Sad_Commercial Red Card

    United States
    Jul 4, 2019
    Which despite providing good data was misleading in itself.

    They did an audit of the last 10 years of game revenue. This was the breakdown.

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    So 141.44m for the men and 79.02m for the women. Notice also that the women only generated more than the men one single time (FY2016) yet the WSJ uses the 2016-18 range.

    Even in the worst year for the USMNT (FY2018) they still slightly out-earned the women.

    But really game revenue is only one of the six different revenue streams so this isn't even definitive.
     
  22. Sad_Commercial

    Sad_Commercial Red Card

    United States
    Jul 4, 2019
    I'm a bit of a wonk on this stuff so here it goes.

    The USWNT are averaging 5.27m viewers on Fox and Telemundo over the 6 games of the Women's World Cup.

    Their largest audience was 8.05m against England and their smallest was 3.10m against Thailand.
     
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  23. Gingawhitous

    Gingawhitous Member

    Apr 13, 2016
    Iowa
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There are numerous examples where different sports organizations put on events at the same time.

    During the NBA/NHL finals, MLB games are going on every night. The dates for the finals are set well in advance and could be scheduled around.

    During Super Bowl Sunday, there are college BB games all throughout the morning/afternoon.

    Hell, pro basketball/baseball take away viewers from their own sports during their postseason tournaments with fixed dates. Both professional leagues play during the two NCAA tournaments.

    Who complains about having more sports to watch? In Grant's case, he has more content to cover.
     
  24. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sure, but this is not really different organizations, it's FIFA. They have control over the international calendar. If they wanted to make CONCACAF, which is essentially a FIFA subsidiary, change its final, they could.

    That said, I'm not really sure that one takes away from the other too much. Then again, I'm not a journalist or a sports network that has to juggle my coverage.
     
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  25. Sad_Commercial

    Sad_Commercial Red Card

    United States
    Jul 4, 2019
    What evidence do you have for this? And why would they change the date of finals that don't overlap and, therefore, don't compete with each other?

    These tournaments can only be held in the summer in-between seasons for the vast majority of the world. There are finite number of dates in which these finals can be played.
     

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