Will you watch the Women's World Cup?

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by HomietheClown, May 30, 2019.

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As a Men's team fan will you watch the Women's World Cup?

Poll closed Jun 6, 2019.
  1. Yes, all of it. Even all the blowouts and boring matches.

    13 vote(s)
    15.1%
  2. Yes, but only the USA and maybe a handful of other top teams.

    41 vote(s)
    47.7%
  3. No, I am focused on the U20, Gold Cup , Copa America, MLS, etc.

    17 vote(s)
    19.8%
  4. No, the whole Women's team equality lawsuit thing has me a bit turned off.

    11 vote(s)
    12.8%
  5. The Women are playing a World Cup?

    4 vote(s)
    4.7%
  1. OfficeSpace

    OfficeSpace Red Card

    United States
    Jun 8, 2019
    Some amateur journalist attempted a hit-job on the men's players regarding the equal pay issue.
     
  2. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Deadspin is amazingly dishonest in the best of circumstances.
     
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  3. Mantis Toboggan M.D.

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jul 8, 2017
    https://archive.fo/Y4PpD

    Can't view the comments from there (which mostly call them out on their bullshxt until the comment gets deleted) but don't give the original page a click unless you're on an ad blocker or a browser like Brave with one built in
     
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  4. Mantis Toboggan M.D.

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jul 8, 2017
    As it turns out, the male players may not have even been contacted at all (and to be clear, even if they had been, they are under no obligation to comment). The article seems to be a complete lie.

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  5. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    This is always good advice.
     
  6. pirozhok

    pirozhok Member+

    United States
    Jul 20, 2007
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's just a clickbait, the lowest form of so-called journalism, all they need are the page views.
     
  7. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  8. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's been some good soccer played at this tournament so far. Sorry to see Japan not advance as they've been one of the most consistently entertaining women's teams for years.
     
  9. pirozhok

    pirozhok Member+

    United States
    Jul 20, 2007
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Grant Wahl just made a great discovery - he found out there is a secondary market for tickets, good job, Grant, you can post your own ticket over there for $150,000 and make headlines for USWNT.
     
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  10. Roger Allaway

    Roger Allaway Member+

    Apr 22, 2009
    Warminster, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Three days ago, you were saying that "tickets to the WWC are cheap like dirt" and that "****** final game is 23-84 Euros, read it again - FINAL game."

    What changed?
     
  11. pirozhok

    pirozhok Member+

    United States
    Jul 20, 2007
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Official prices, i repeat - OFFICIAL.
    And i am repeating it again to sink in - OFFICIAL prices.
     
  12. Roger Allaway

    Roger Allaway Member+

    Apr 22, 2009
    Warminster, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But since you didn't think that they could fill the stadiums, even for France's own games, doesn't that mean that you thought that the official prices were the only prices anybody would have to pay?
     
  13. pirozhok

    pirozhok Member+

    United States
    Jul 20, 2007
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Official prices are the only prices we can analyze unless someone gets the access to POS data from online reselling platforms with completed transactions.
    https://www.stubhub.com/world-cup-f...ces-6-28-2019/event/103942482/?sort=price+asc

    Grant Wahl has posted €465 ticket, i am posting €195 ticket, both Cat 4.
    BTW, €195 is shamelessly low price for 1/4 of the top tourney in the world with hosts playing main favorite.
     
  14. Three and Three

    Three and Three Member+

    Sep 13, 2015
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Rapinoe started it, and, in a thread about the tournament's appeal, a BS member with a good reputation put forth a fair-minded comment.
     
  15. pirozhok

    pirozhok Member+

    United States
    Jul 20, 2007
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What about €10,000 for Cat 4 ticket? It beats WC2018 final game prices for the same cat.
     

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  16. OfficeSpace

    OfficeSpace Red Card

    United States
    Jun 8, 2019
    He doesn't think that they can't fill stadiums, he knows that they can't. It's merely a statement of fact.
     
  17. pirozhok

    pirozhok Member+

    United States
    Jul 20, 2007
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They can't and they could not fill out the stadiums even with much lower ticket prices, we know that for the fact now.
    1. WWC are using stadiums with lower capacity than WC2018 venues even though France boasts a number of arenas with higher capacity than selected venues.
    WWC venues:
    Lyon 57,900 (only used for semis and final)
    PDP 45,600
    Nice 35,100
    Roazhon 28,600
    Oceane 24,000
    Hainaut 22,600
    Auguste 21,608
    Masson 19,300
    Alpes 18,000
    List of France soccer arenas:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_football_stadiums_in_France
    Average stadium capacity:
    WC2018 - 45,900
    WWC2019 - 30,300

    2. Attendance
    WC2018 WWC2019

    Opening 78,000 45,200
    Group lowest 27,000 8,000
    Group highest 78,000 45,600
    Group Average 45,400 17,884
    Octofinals average 49,700 21,300

    3. Ticket prices
    WC2018 WWC2019

    Opening $50-550 €13-49
    Classic $20-210 €9-30
    Top $20-210 €9-37
    Hosts $20-210 €9-45
    Octofinals $35-245 €13-49
    Quarters $60-365 €15-57
    Semis $69-750 €17-66
    3rd $60-365 €9-45
    Final $110-1100 €23-84
     
  18. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    How is Rapinoe not on a plane back from France for what she said? Way worse the anything Hope Solo ever did.
     
  19. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    That's an absolutely insane standard.
     
  20. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    People like a winner. Doesn't matter whether it's Tom Brady, Lebron James, )Tim Tebow(the original 'taking a knee' guy, but for right-wing purposes), Megan Rapinoe, Mel Gibson, or Brie Larson.

    Personally, I just watch the show.
     
  21. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    LOL. Solo criticized her teammates and coaching staff, and then was a bad sport after losing. Pinoe said she didn't want to visit the White House. Solo is gone because she had an adverse effect on her team. I see no evidence that Pinoe has had an adverse effect on her team. I don't even think I've heard a teammate "off the record" disagree with her. Krieger backed her up on the record...

    Then again, I've never agreed with athletes turning down White House trips, no matter the President, for political reasons. I'd go, but I'd make sure I brought some decent food along...
     
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  22. Roger Allaway

    Roger Allaway Member+

    Apr 22, 2009
    Warminster, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, the men's World Cup outdraws the Women's World Cup by a considerable amount. I don't think that has ever been in dispute. It's like saying that the sun rises in the east.

    However, I think that you went too far when you indicated that you believed that France couldn't fill the stadium in LeHavre with its 24,000 crowd for its game against Brazil. You said: "Stadium capacity is 25K. In any case, I have a feeling match would not hit that mark even in a 45K stadium" This was after France had drawn full-house crowds of 45,261, 34,872 and 28,267 for its first three games (the capacity of the stadium where France-Brazil was played was reduced to 24,000 for the WWC, as is usually the case at World Cup stadiums, to make room for the press and freeloaders).

    You seem to think that I am saying that the WWC can fill every stadium for every game. Of course it can't. Even the men's World Cup never used to do that (I think 1994 was the first time). As recently as the 1986 World Cup, it had eight crowds of less than 20,000.

    Conversely, I think that you are saying that the WWC can't fill any stadium for any game. Maybe we are both wrong about what the other is saying. But if you are indeed saying that France can't hit the 25,000 mark for its games, I think you will get the answer to that on Friday.
     
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  23. pirozhok

    pirozhok Member+

    United States
    Jul 20, 2007
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not every or any stadium, numbers I posted are telling that WWC could not compete with WC in total numbers of paid spectators, even with much lower ticket prices.
     
  24. Roger Allaway

    Roger Allaway Member+

    Apr 22, 2009
    Warminster, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Of course it can't. I'd be surprised (shocked) if anybody has ever said that it can.
     
  25. pirozhok

    pirozhok Member+

    United States
    Jul 20, 2007
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What about apples to apples, equality, discrimination, non-equal pay etc? Why can't we compare male and female soccer as equal sports?
     

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