Will the Premiership dominate the CL?

Was more fun before wasn't it

Although readin about how Man Utd and Liverpool get raped financially is quite fun as well. But then again you American idiots wouldn't know much about economics now would ya, Ricky.

 

I wish i was american so i could answer your question. Maybe you can bring in your view of the current economical climate in Norway?

 

Haven't really been hit that badly by the mess you guys have made. Isn't it kind of sad that the only superpower left has the dumbest population in the developed world. I find that very worrying.

 

Duck stop having sex with reindeers

 

Reindeers? They have sex? Wow.

 

Once again the crunch wont hurt us one bit, we want shot of the americans ( or is that americans shot) because we know a life long Dubai fan will pick us up

 

That's obviously never going to happen.

 

Arsenal will spend the minimum amounts possibe till 2011, then the summer after they will be sold and you will be in whatever the clubs worth is in debt, lots to look forward to for you.

 

Even in the conditions of a year ago it wouldn't make sense to sell, they will make alot more when the club is debt free and none of it would be on paper.

 

Well, think about it. The UEFA Champsion League is a European competition. You think the others would be OK with more English teams? Why the hell would they want that. If this is the way things are supposed to go there wouldn't be any English teams in the competition today. It'd all be made up of Italian and Spanish teams who dominated in the early goings. If I'm not mistaken a Italian team was in the first seven Finals of the CL, and five Spanish finalists in five years before an all Italian final in 2003. The PL would be so far behind at that point they'd never sniff the success they have today.

 

Give me one reason why any other country then England would be for this? Serie A and La Liga teams couldn't give a shit about Man City. The only people who'd want them included at the cost of anyone are City fans.

 

Italy only got that good because England was removed from their opposition and never recoverd till 98.
Obviously they had great managers and players that England have not really ever produced but no way would Serie A have got so good if the then top nation had not been removed and tarnished(deserved).

 

Italian clubs had the most money during the 80s and 90s. Their clubs were spending huge sums all through those decades and nobody else could compete with them financially. Milan and Juventus spent insane money by 90s standards. Now they are broke I frankly dont give a f'ck. I find it amusing to see clowns like Duck Mansion crying about this situation.

Obviously with our clubs banned they had far less competition and were able to take a stranglehold ,on top of being rich teams.

Getting banned for 5 full seasons (6 seasons in the european cup) for the actions of one team sure as hell aint deserved.

 

That's bull and you know it. It wasn't until that PL money came in and English players were replaced by foreign talent that the top Prem League teams became a European force. Had nothing to do with Heysel.

 

At this point, yes it is. The UEFA is not a corporation with the sole target of making money, its leaders are elected by the member organizations, it's all about politics. Platini did not get elected with the backing of the big nations, but with the backing of the nomark countrys. Of course the big clubs do have a lot to say because they are necessary for the success of the competition, but the current situation is already a compromise (Platini originally wanted to reduce births of the top 3). So, I don't see 5 or more English teams coming with Platini as president, and since the last 2 presidents kept their job for 17 years each, I don't expect changes in the forseeable future. There is of course the remote possibility of some kind of a breakaway league of the big clubs, but a confrontation would include huge risks and for clubs like ManU, Barca, Real there is little to gain since they play CL anyway pretty much every year anyway.

 

That would never happen if PL demanded more teams then Italy or Spain. English teams aren't that popular in other countries.

 

It was not because of the actions of one team. The Heysel tragedy was the result of the actions of Liverpool fans. However this was merely the low point in a series of hooligan-related incidents that blighted virtually every British club at the time. If the problem was merely Liverpool fans then only Liverpool would have been banned. Heysel was the most serious incident involving English hooligans but it was the straw that broke the camels back. Spurs, Leeds and Man U fans had all been involved in previous serious incidents resulting in club bans or expulsions from tournaments. At the time England fans were also rioting across Europe. Indeed it was the case that after Heysel, the English FA requested that English clubs be reinstated into Europe. The FA then withdrew this request after English fans caused trouble at the 1988 European Championships. Yes the Liverpool fans were at fault during the Heysel incident but it should be acknowledged that hooliganism was a mjor problem blighting virtually all British clubs at the time.

 

yeah, because the record of English teams in the years leading up to Heysel was dreadful, wasn't it? They'd only won the european cup 7 times in 8 years - pathetic eh?

 

The shift in power would have happened regardless of Heysel. Italy had accepted foreigners back in Serie A and were taking over.