Will NASL get USSF D2 sanction for 2011 and which teams will play if D2 sanction is given??

Discussion in 'NASL' started by pc4th, Sep 9, 2010.

  1. pc4th

    pc4th New Member

    Jun 14, 2003
    North Poll
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://www.nasl.com/article/puerto-rico-islanders-join-nasl

    http://www.insidemnsoccer.com/2010/...h-official-join-north-american-soccer-league/




    InsideMinnesotaSoccer speculate on which NASL clubs can meet the USSF D2 requirements and which will need a waiver. I only paste a few, click to read the rest of the blog.

    http://www.insidemnsoccer.com/2010/08/18/quelling-rumors-a-ussf-d2-update/


    Here's a fan speculation on which clubs can meet the USSF D2 requirements:

    http://www.insidemnsoccer.com/2010/...nal-league-standards/comment-page-1/#comments

    Posted by Eric:

     
  2. carnifex2005

    carnifex2005 Member+

    Jul 1, 2008
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
    Good synopsis so far. I feel the big issue with the new USSF Div 2 standards is the US based teams rule. Both Montreal and Vancouver wanted to keep NASL squads post MLS joining. Even if MLS agreed to that, the USSF won't let those two deep pockets into the league unless they have US based franchises. Too bad. I do think that it may lead to a Canadian based 2nd division which would hurt Div 2 status for the NASL in the future.
     
  3. Green and BLue

    Green and BLue Member+

    Seattle Sounders FC
    Nov 3, 2003
    Republic of Cascadia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know if Vancouver's still planning on leaving a "feeder" team in the NASL. I don't recall them announcing one, and if they were going to field such ateam for 2011, you'd think such a team would be mentioned in the NASL D2 bid announcement.

    At any rate, I don't see why the USSF wouldn't allow Montreal's "feeder" team in, since it would just be replacing an outgoing non-US team.
     
  4. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Man, there's going to be a lot of surprised people in a month or so.
     
  5. MUhooligan10

    MUhooligan10 New Member

    Nov 6, 2008
    Columbia, MO
    Club:
    AC St. Louis
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Care to elaborate?
     
  6. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am just amused at how many people are apparently so certain that the USSF will sanction the NASL.

    Not saying it won't happen. Just saying that I don't see how anyone can be certain about it.
     
  7. MUhooligan10

    MUhooligan10 New Member

    Nov 6, 2008
    Columbia, MO
    Club:
    AC St. Louis
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    It just sounded like you had some inside info and knew what was going to happen. You seemed certain that people would be surprised...
     
  8. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I will say that NASL has a better chance of getting a D2 league sanctioned than USL does. ;)
     
  9. revolution1776

    Jul 23, 2009
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Now that the reserve league is almost a lock to come back next year, It would be redundant for Vancouver to have a team in NASL.
     
  10. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You mean aside from the reserve league serving a completely different purpose than a developmental team in a lower league?
     
  11. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    BTW, I got corrected on this part farther down the IMS discussion:

    Tampa Bay has managed to fit a field in Steinbrenner that meets the USSF requirements, so they should actually be in the 'meet all standards' list.

    And to fill out a little more detail on other part of it:

    Austin would need a stadium waiver for the field size.
    Edmonton would need a stadium waiver for capacity.

    From discussions I've seen elsewhere, Cooper *can't* handle the money calls. He's worth more than $20 million, but it's all wrapped up in ways that are not liquid.
     
  12. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Do you live to start polls. Can't we just have a - you know - discussion?
     
  13. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought Tampa's field was only 104 yards long? The problem is that the USSF requirements on the IMS website say the fields have to be 110 x 70. They've got the 70, but not the 110.
     
  14. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're right. My memory is so crappy, it's sad. So, Tampa doesn't meet the requirements after all. My initial list was correct.
     
  15. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The only reason I remembered that is because I had just finished reading the post and comments section and saw WSW and your discussion about it.
     
  16. speedcake

    speedcake Member

    Dec 2, 1999
    Tampa
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There is no "maybe" option in the poll, only yes or no. And people like to be positive for the most part, I assume.

    Also you make a statement of finality here as well. "There is going to be..."

    You don't know anything more than the rest of us, so why dampen the enthusiasm? ;)
     
  17. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    pc4th, who seems to live only to create polls (by the way has he ever posted in this forum before starting this mess?), actually isn't very good at it.
     
  18. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good point. I love that two people have voted for each of the dashed lines.
     
  19. aimorris

    aimorris Member

    May 2, 2007
    Orlando, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sometimes I think he's just making the polls because people expect it and recognize him as "The BS Poll Guy." I mean, when I see "poll" in a thread title, I immediately know who the thread creator was. Internet fame, ftw.
     
  20. houndguy

    houndguy New Member

    Sep 5, 2001
    Pittsburgh, Pa
    Do we have any word on any other possible expansion teams?

    I don't think that the USSF would be so stupid as to not allow feeder teams to partake in the D-2...but then again this is the USSF we're talking about.
     
  21. ButlerBob

    ButlerBob Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 13, 2001
    Evanston, IL
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I would hope so, considering that USL isn't even applying for D2 status / sanctioning.

    I think it's all going to come down to how quickly NASL ownership can bring in help / additional investors for the troubled groups and how long USSF is willing to give them to meet these new standards. But I think they are going to be fairly hard line on the % of US based teams. That would make sense, they are the US Soccer Federation their goal is to build soccer here.
     
  22. law5guy

    law5guy Member

    Jun 26, 2001
    If US soccer goes states handing out wavers or exceptions to their standards... then ... well ... why have standards at all?
     
  23. drSoFlaFan

    drSoFlaFan DEFEND THE FORT!

    Feb 25, 2008
    Plantation, FL
    Club:
    Ft Lauderdale Strikers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As a guideline moving forward. Standards are all well and good but if you kill off D2 entirely what good are they?
     
  24. LeftyLeftyOutside

    Aug 25, 2010
    Johnson City, TN
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It makes perfect sense to grandfather existing teams in. You don't want to strangle D2 soccer by immediately applying rigid standards to existing clubs.
     
  25. Blue Lou

    Blue Lou Member

    Nov 13, 2006
    When will the final decision be made?
     

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