Will MLS go winless in CONCACAF for 2 decades?

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Will MLS go winless in CONCACAF for 2 decades?

  1. Yes

    80.0%
  2. No

    20.0%
  1. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Country:
    Chile
    Si, de seguro que es así.
    Pero esto no tiene nada que ver con quien puede simpatizarte o quien te pueda odiar.
    Mí comparación va en relación a quien maneja el mayor poder económico, en nuestro continente.
    Y en este sentido, muy pocos están en verdaderas condiciones de equilibrio, con respecto a aquellos individuos del país del Norte.

    Si uds. me preguntan a quienes puedo llegar a temer más, en lo que al fútbol se refiere, sin duda esa posición se la llevan los del Norte del río Colorado. Y no por el nivel de juego que alguna vez vayan a lograr, sino que por el poder que les otorgan los billetes que tienen.
     
  2. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Country:
    Chile
    It all started out because @jared9999 first said that according to level, Conmebol is :

    1. Brazil and Argentina
    2. Mexico
    3. the rest of Conmebol.

    Which is highly insulting to most Conmebol fans.

    Where, first of all, Mexico isn't part of Conmebol,
    and secondly, compared to everybody else in Conmebol, Mexico is at most about the same thing than every body else, (or even among the worst of it), as they still haven't won much things, while competing there.

    And most of the few times, whenever some of their clubs has achieved a good performance, they do it by having a very strong Conmebol base of players in their team (with very few home players), almost without any mexican identity.
    Compared to that, Conmebol clubs mostly have achieved their own success, based on home players with very few foreign players in the rosters (at most with 3-4 of them), so they are lots more representative of the nation they are representing.
     
  3. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Pachuca, Hidalgo
    Club:
    Club América
    Country:
    Mexico
    That's why a Mexican team reached the final of your greatest tourney.

    Cry me a river
     
  4. chungachanga

    chungachanga Member

    Dec 12, 2011
    They need to build this thing like cup tournaments or March Madness, then maybe MLS will have a chance. Everyone can beat everyone in one game.

    32 or 64 teams, one game rounds. Game location is decided by bribes.

    It would get rid of the CCL group stage, less schedule congestion. Plus CCL group stage is terrible anyway. And it might be a more interesting tournament because anything can happen in one game.
     
  5. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Country:
    United States
    I am just going to leave this here.

    Nation..............2011.......2012.......2013.......2014.......2015..............Total

    Brazil..............14.667.....18.917.......16.167........13.167......16.7...........79.618
    Argentina.......13............15.7 .........15.2 ..........17.4..........15.75........77.05
    Paraguay........14.833......12.333.....14.167.......13.333.......10.833......65.499
    Colombia.......14.167......7.833.......14.167........11.333.......11.166.......58.666
    Chile..............12.833......14.5.........9...............12.............8.666........56.999
    Mexico...........12.667.......7.167.......10.333.......9.667........11.5 .........51.334
    Uruguay..........10.833......8.833.....8.167........12.333.......6.666.......46.832
    Bolivia............5.167.........8............5.667.........12.333.......10.5........41.667
    Ecuador..........7.667.........9...........8................6.333.......8.333.......39.333
    Peru................5.333........4.833......8.5...........4..............6.5...........29.166
    Venezuela........5.5..........4.167.......5...............5.333........6.5...........26.5
     
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  6. JJV1994

    JJV1994 Member+

    Jun 16, 2013
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Country:
    Mexico
    Pretty good from our 2nd tier teams .

    MLS has proven to not be able to handle tier one LigaMX clubs
    Why not give these losers tier 2 clubs and give the Libertadores the best we can offer.

    I'm sure one of the big LigaMX clubs can buy themselves a title :coffee:
     
  7. It's called FOOTBALL

    It's called FOOTBALL BigSoccer Yellow Card

    May 4, 2009
    Jajaja, pero compadre, la Liga MX tambien recibe billetes estadounidenses. Es la liga de balonpie mas popular en este pais. Una economia fuerte de e.u. beneficia a la Liga MX tambien.

    Simplemente, la Liga MX siempre va ser superior, no te tomes la limonada de los espasticos.
     
  8. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Country:
    Switzerland
    #58 Nico Limmat, Oct 23, 2015
    Last edited: Oct 23, 2015
    Doesn't look like 2016 will be the year for MLS either. The Galaxy result really put the league in a difficult spot with four MLS-Liga MX series in the quarterfinals.

    I have been calling out Liga MX for not getting all teams to the quarterfinals since the format changed to groups of three. Now that has been achieved (although with quite a bit of luck for Queretaro) nothing will reaffirm Mexico's grip over CONCACAF more than a clear sweep next spring.
     
  9. AlleXyS

    AlleXyS Member

    Apr 22, 2014
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Country:
    Romania
    I think this is a real dream for CONCACAF, to have 4 Liga MX clubs and 4 MLS clubs in Quarterfinals :) Now, we can remind about North American SuperLiga with 8 teams, only US+MX.... and with 1 vs 1 matches, where we can see exactly which is the difference between MX clubs and MLS clubs :)

    now, MLS clubs must play their best 11, in the best edition of CCL ever (probably).... not with second or third team, not with young players which never played a continental match. Must play with the best 11 against the biggest rivals of USA in football (soccer).

    For me, normal in 2015/16 the final will be played between Tigres and America :D DC United can play the semifinals, and between Santos/LAG will be a hard double for 2 matches in semifinals against curently champions, America !!
     
  10. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Pachuca, Hidalgo
    Club:
    Club América
    Country:
    Mexico
    #60 jared9999, Oct 24, 2015
    Last edited: Oct 24, 2015
    uh....forgetting about la undecima are we Swiss?;)
     
  11. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Pachuca, Hidalgo
    Club:
    Club América
    Country:
    Mexico
    I said this before the group stage even started. Simply by all the big names that are in this edition. The top 4 all time scorers ever; Chuleta, Peralta, Darwin, Emanuel Villa. Plus all the other great names Gignac, Stevie G, Gio, and even that pecho frio Dempsey :D.
     
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  12. Pink Party

    Pink Party New Member

    Jan 14, 2002
    Two decades? More like three!!! ROFL

    Loved the faces of the European Galaxy players when they realized what level of play they signed up for in MLS after the Santos drubbing. And I don't want to ever see Gio on El Tri again as long as he plays in that league!
     
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  13. NaBUru38

    NaBUru38 Member

    Mar 8, 2016
    Las Canteras, Uruguay
    Club:
    Club Nacional de Football
    Hey, we were semifinalists at the 2010 World Cup, won the 2011 Copa América, and semifinalists at the 2013 FIFA Confederations Cup.
     
  14. NaBUru38

    NaBUru38 Member

    Mar 8, 2016
    Las Canteras, Uruguay
    Club:
    Club Nacional de Football
    If MLS keeps expanding, their players will be ever more dilluted among the dozens of teams.

    To beat mexicans regularly, they would need to become a two-tier competition or abolish salary caps, which won't happen.
     
  15. themodelcitizen

    Jul 23, 2000
    BMO Field - Sec. 114
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    tbf the second one pretty much means the third is bare minimum
     
  16. Overachiever

    Overachiever Member+

    Nov 18, 2009
    Country:
    Mexico
    How many years has it been back to back?
     
  17. LaMascara

    LaMascara Member+

    Apr 11, 2013
    Club:
    Pachuca CF
  18. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Nassau County, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Country:
    United States
    Deportivo Saprissa won in 2005. It's 10 or 11, depending on if you count the current Champions League, which will be won by a Mexican club.
     
  19. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Pachuca, Hidalgo
    Club:
    Club América
    Country:
    Mexico
    c´mon Evanj,;)

    You´ve been watching since 2005 like me.

    #undecima
     
  20. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Pachuca, Hidalgo
    Club:
    Club América
    Country:
    Mexico
    That was a great win by Saprissa. They beat both Monterrey and Pumas with full starters! Hugo Sanchez even bragged about how the trophy was pretty much in the bag in the final before the 1st leg!
     
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  21. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Nassau County, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Country:
    United States
    2005 was the first time I watched a CONCACAF Champions Cup, Club World Cup, or Gold Cup. To show how far attendance has come, Wikipedia says Kansas City got only 1,207 fans to see their 2005 Quarterfinal first leg against Deportivo Saprissa.
     
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  22. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Country:
    Switzerland
    #72 Nico Limmat, Mar 16, 2016
    Last edited: Mar 16, 2016
    Was 2005 the year it returned to the Fox network? Before that it was tough to watch in the US with usually only the final on television. In the MLS era I remember watching the 1997 and 2000 final on Univision.

    1997: Univision
    1998: Univision
    1999: Fox Sports World? (unavailable for many) - this was the Las Vegas one
    2000: Univision

    Don't think the 2001 Giants Cup was on TV and the same might be true for the 2002-2004 Champions Cup editions. Anybody remember?

    And today I can watch all the knock-out rounds live in the UAE on Abu Dhabi Sports. :D
     
  23. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Country:
    Switzerland
    So four editions left to prevent this (unwanted) milestone. The line-up next year is:

    FC Dallas (USSF)
    Portland Timbers (USSF)
    Red Bull New York (USSF)
    Sporting Kansas City (USSF)
    Vancouver Whitecaps (CSA)

    Not convinced next year will be much different.

    Dallas was the first USSF team to win in Mexico but has achieved nothing else of note. New York has been plain embarrassing in CONCACAF play and Portland didn't leave a mark in their only participation. Neither did Vancouver. The only team with some continental history is Kansas City. They were the first USSF team to beat Mexican opposition over two legs (2002) and made the quarterfinals as recently as 2014.
     
  24. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Nassau County, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Country:
    United States
    You should specify Fox Soccer Channel, not Fox, which is a broadcast channel. I joined BigSoccer in 2004, and in 2004 I don't think I knew the CONCACAF Champions Cup existed, so I don't know about TV for it.
     
  25. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Pachuca, Hidalgo
    Club:
    Club América
    Country:
    Mexico
    I remember it was you Swiss that posted the article about Hugo saying that he saw himself celebrating at the end before the 2005 CCC final. Remember?
     

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