Why the Republicans shouldn't use new media

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  1. ceezmad

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    Bolt, Leaf, I think the 2019 Clarity, Focus.

    You have options, they do not have the cool factor

    (Hyundai is coming out with an electric SUV)


    BTW (the chart is old, the Bolt gets about 230 miles).

    https://www.motor1.com/features/228379/longest-range-evs/

    [​IMG]


    27 miles per charge or so correct?
     
  2. sitruc

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    Bolt's 230ish range isn't that realistic around here. Clarity doesn't have the range I need. The Focus has even less. Of course the Focus is only in a few states and they stopped making them already. Chevy is barely doing more than the minimum with the Bolt. Hence, Tesla is even outproducing them.

    Hyundai Kona EV has been released in several markets and will be in the US soon, but it's very likely production for the US will be very limited like many electric vehicles in the US. The same goes for the Kia Niro EV. The likely price point on those two are great compared to something like an upcoming audi e-tron SUV or sportback or even VW id crozz.
     
  3. song219

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    actually about 100
     
  4. ToMhIlL

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    Who says he's American? Can you prove it? He lives in one of those border states close to Mexico and his his last name is suspiciously Spanish sounding. He shoulda been like his cousin Tom and changed it to Cruise. I wanna see his birf certificate. The long form one, not just some hospital record tat some deep-state doctor or nurse could have altered...
     
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  5. ceezmad

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    Really, what is the model, I was looking at electrical bikes a week ago and most on market (that I could afford) were very disappointing on the range.
     
  6. song219

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    I should have clarified. When I said electric bikes I actually meant electric motorcycles.
     
  7. ceezmad

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    Yes that is what I am talking about also, electric motor cycles.

    I see that the Zeros actually do have a good range, 11K for 89 miles is not bad, I was looking under cruising bikes, I am too old for sport bikes.

    2018 Zero SR

    $16,500 - 14.4 kwh - 179 miles - 1.3-kw charger (120V) - 70 hp - 116 ft-lbs - 414 lbs

    $19,400 - 18 kwh - 223 miles - 1.3-kw charger (120V) - 70 hp - 116 ft-lbs - 458 lbs

    $11,000 - 7.2 kwh - 89mi - 1.3-kw charger (120V) - 34 hp - 78 ft-lbs - 313lbs

    $14,000 - 13 kwh - 161mi - 1.3-kw charger (120V) - 60 hp - 81 ft-lbs - 408lbs

    $16,700 - 16.6 kwh - 206mi - 1.3-kw charger (120V) - 60 hp - 81 ft-lbs - 452lbs

    $16,000 - 14.4 kwh - 163 mi - 1.3-kw charger (120V) - 70 hp - 116 ft-lbs - 419lbs

    $18,700 - 18 kwh - 204 mi - 1.3-kw charger (120V) - 70 hp - 116 ft-lbs - 463lbs

    $8,500 - 3.6 kwh - 46-50 mi - 1-kw charger (120V) - 27 hp - 78 ft-lbs - 247lbs

    $10,500 - 7.2 kwh - 91-100 mi - 1-kw charger (120V) - 46 hp - 78 ft-lbs - 289lbs


    https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1115663_2018-electric-motorcycle-buyers-guide/page-3
     
  8. song219

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    You might want to check out Victory. That make has been discontinued but they had just put out an electric motorcycle before they were discontinued. You might be able to get discounts.
     
  9. ceezmad

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    The Tesla model 3 "cheap" version that is not being produced yet will have a range of around 220 miles, you have to kick in another 9K to get the 300 mile range.

    Yes winter does take a toll on the battery range, my Volt (rated at 51 miles) can give me 53 (best I have done) in the summer vs 36 (lowest I saw last winter) in very cold days.

    I do not know if losing 1/3 of the range in winter is standard for EVs or EV-Hybrids.
     
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  10. dapip

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    Rafael is an anchor baby IIRC.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Cruz

    Actually he isn't, he's a cannuck..
     
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  11. ceezmad

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    Indian (well the company that bough them and closed Victory) is supposed to be coming with an electric bike, hopefully is not super expensive, but it probably will be.
     
  12. InTheSun

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    Yes it is - for any current battery vehicle sub-freezing temps will take a big chunk like that out of the range, although you can mitigate some of that by "pre-conditioning" the battery before you head out.
     
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  13. sitruc

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    I'm not interested in the "standard" battery so I think it starts at about $49,000 right now.
     
  14. ceezmad

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    49K is above my pay grade.
     
  15. superdave

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    Alex Jones was doing a demonstration on how to access his website. He filmed it. He was using his IPhone.

    Some eagle eyed folks noticed he had a tab open for tranny pr)n.

    Heh heh heh
     
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  17. xtomx

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    Of course, that is NOT the Second Amendment to the US Constitution.

    "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

    It doesn't work if you leave off half of the statement, dumb ass.

    Let's try that with the Fifth Amendment, shall we?

    "No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime."
    Let "The Purge" commence!

    Here is the entire Fifth Amendment:
    No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger;
    nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb;
    nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
    nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
     
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  18. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    Two Corinthians
     
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  19. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    Lost in all the Kavanaugh & Trump news was this amazing confrontation between Marco Rubio & Alex Jones in a hallway in congress.

     
  20. Dr. Wankler

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    Slate's take: Republicans Were Mad At Twitter for Banning Alex Jones. Then They Met Him.

    https://slate.com/technology/2018/0...l-hearings-and-showed-what-trolls-can-do.html


    Two images will endure from Wednesday’s congressional hearings on social media bias and misinformation. Neither one quite captures what the Republican leaders who convened the hearings had in mind.

    First, far-right conspiracy monger Alex Jones hijacked a press interview with Marco Rubio outside the Senate hearing room, irritating the Republican senator so much that Rubio turned to him, glaring, and threatened to “take care of you myself.”

    Later, alt-right provocateur Laura Loomer interrupted a House hearing and was escorted from the room, while Republican Rep. Billy Long of Missouri mocked her from the dais by performing an impressively authentic-sounding auctioneer’s call.


    There’s nothing wrong with Republican politicians standing up to right-wing trolls or denying them the chance to spout their vitriol on Capitol Hill. Except for one awkward irony: The hearing from which Loomer was forcibly removed was motivated partly by Twitter’s alleged censorship of those very same obnoxious voices. Turns out it’s hard to focus one’s outrage at Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey for silencing fringe figures while they’re being dragged out of the room. ​

     
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  21. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    C'mon - how much y'all think a 3 round Jones-Rubio fight would generate on PPV? Give the money to P.R. hurricane victims.
     
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  22. xtomx

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    "The Democrats are raping the Republicans.
    The Democrats are raping the Republicans."
    "Bath house Rubio."
    What a moron.
     
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  23. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    His antics got him a full Twitter ban.

    In the old days people like Jones would've been wandering around the neighborhood muttering to themselves.
     
  24. HerthaBerwyn

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    Judging by his sons I wish he had been an incel at all ages.
     
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