Who will win the Sudamericana?

Discussion in 'Copa Libertadores / Sudamericana' started by JAIME CHILE, Sep 22, 2006.

  1. Deleted USer

    Deleted USer Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Calero is also a naturalized Mexican. His kids play with pachuca's youth teams
     
  2. FMF_LFP

    FMF_LFP Red Card

    Aug 19, 2005
    Piss Peru
    There is no doubt Pachuca will win this Copa Sudamericana. Ever since the competition got underway I have always predicted Pachuca will win. The game Toluca vs. Colo colo will be very interesting. Colo colo has been playing great footie, so is still uncertain what will happen. As far as Toluca you have to take into consideration that Tolo Gallego will not be taking the full roster. He will be mixing up players between the Conmebol competition and the MFL liguilla.

    All I see Pachuca taking the cup all the way
     
  3. Mosco

    Mosco Member+

    Dec 1, 2004
    Sun Valley, CA
    Yeah after seeing Pachuca vs Atl Paranense Pachuca had more control over the ball than Paranense so this means Pachuca is strong and tommorrow I will watch Toluca vs Colo colo what a game tis will be good thing (+i took time off work to se these games!
     
  4. El_tri321mex

    El_tri321mex Member

    Oct 20, 2006
    berkeley
    Pachuca and Toluca are good are teams that always take advantage of home games , Things look bad for paranaense already:eek:
     
  5. Mosco

    Mosco Member+

    Dec 1, 2004
    Sun Valley, CA
    you never know look what happened when Sao Paulo went to play Chivas at Jalisco so never say never!
     
  6. JAIME CHILE

    JAIME CHILE Member+

    Apr 26, 2006
    V.Alemana y Stgo
    Club:
    Cobreloa Calama
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    right, because the chilean top players are playing in EUROPE (England, Italy and Spain basically).

    The "medio pelo" players go to México (Galaz, S.González, Mancilla, I.Fuentes, etc):p
     
  7. Caturro

    Caturro Member

    Aug 3, 2004
    Chile
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Espero que no tengas familiasres "indios"... ******** que caen mal cuando se ponen altaneros.

    Debiera ser un buen partido el de Toluca y Colo Colo. Gallego dijo saber todo sobre Colo Colo... veremos si le ayuda en algo. :D
     
  8. Mosco

    Mosco Member+

    Dec 1, 2004
    Sun Valley, CA

    We still beat your national team regardless if it's your A or B team:D
     
  9. JAIME CHILE

    JAIME CHILE Member+

    Apr 26, 2006
    V.Alemana y Stgo
    Club:
    Cobreloa Calama
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    ¿sure?

    Last game was draw, and AGAIN OVER THERE.
    (February 18, 2004, at L.A., 1:1, Navia made the goal).

    Your NT never comes to South America to play, only for Copa América.

    The only game in Chile against your NT (1996), we won, and without our better players.:cool:
     
  10. Deleted USer

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    Jan 7, 2001
    i do believe Mexico beat Chile, not once, but twice in the same Copa America (1999).

    MEX: Campos - Pardo, Márquez, Suárez, Carmona - Lara, Zepeda (45 Palencia), García Aspe (78 Sánchez), Ramírez - Hernández, Blanco (80 Chávez)

    CHI: Marcelo Ramírez - Vargas, Miguel Ramírez, Rojas, Reyes - Parraguez, Acuña (74 González), Valencia (80 Palacios), Pizarro (65 Estay) - Zamorano, Salas

    -------------------------

    not for nothing, but I have heard countless chilean players (Zamorano, Basay, Fugueroa, Estay, Valenzuela, Navia, Gonzales, etc) players admit that the Mexican NT is as of late superior to them.

    I am aware some south american fans will refuse to admit it that Mexican soccer in general has improved, but those that do only say it by claiming that it has only gotten better because of the South American player. You might as well not give it credit then. Truth is 75% of the foreign player is a push over and does not last long in the Mexican league. For the 2003 Copa Libertadores, over 60 players participating in that tournament playing in non mexican teams had at one point or another played in Mexico and 95% of them did not amount to shyt. However, they were stars in their teams or at the minimum influential.

    Again, they say "look at the goal scoring list, 60-70% of them are not even Mexican." Gee, most leagues also are like that. look at the Colombian league--they went 50 years without having a Colombian top the goal scoring sheets. We have gone 5 (wowwww, big woopdy do). We have had more Mexicans top the goal socring charts than we have foreigners.

    but--those that say its because of the foreigner---what about the NT? We are either on par or better than most South American NTs
     
  11. JAIME CHILE

    JAIME CHILE Member+

    Apr 26, 2006
    V.Alemana y Stgo
    Club:
    Cobreloa Calama
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    With Ramírez like goalie, hasta México nos gana:D

    I never heard/read that they said something like that.
    They have good words for the Mexican CHAMPIONSHIP, THE CLUBS.

    Yeah, keep improving...
    Angola 0 Mexico 0...:D

    And for the clubs good results we all know the reason: $$$ and FOREIGNERS.;)

    ¿Most leagues?
    Maybe in Spain and England and Mexico.
    Not in most leagues: in Brazilian league, Argentine league, Paraguayan league, Uruguayan league, Chilean league, etc

    I repeat: Angola 0 Mexico 0.

    I think you're improving, but no so much.

    Maybe most of southamerican NT's can beat Angola.
     
  12. CheveLoco

    CheveLoco Member

    Apr 19, 2005
    San Diego, CA
    yeah and Ecuador beat Brazil last time they played? to you a single result(and the one of your convinience) proves a point? nah i'll pass this discussion...;)
     
  13. JAIME CHILE

    JAIME CHILE Member+

    Apr 26, 2006
    V.Alemana y Stgo
    Club:
    Cobreloa Calama
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Obviously Brazil is better than Ecuador&Mexico...I pass this discussion too.:cool:
     
  14. El_tri321mex

    El_tri321mex Member

    Oct 20, 2006
    berkeley
    Who idiot will say Mexico or Ecuador is better than Brazil? No one is better than Brazil.:eek:
     
  15. Caturro

    Caturro Member

    Aug 3, 2004
    Chile
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Colo-Colo dominando ampliamente. A Mati y a Suazolos tienen que marcar de cuatro a la vez... esto parece futbol infantil, todos detras del que tiene la pelota. :D

    Toluca llega una vez y se tranforma en autogol. Hasta el momento todo va con mi prediccion... solo necesito un par de goles mas de Colo Colo y obtendria mis puntos.

    La defensa de Toluca es peor que la de Colo Colo. Si Toluca se abre mas en Mexico (ya que irian por el triunfo) el partido Colo Colo lo mata en contrataque.

    Muy entretenido hasta ahora. Lo hinchada se ha portado bien. :p
     
  16. El_tri321mex

    El_tri321mex Member

    Oct 20, 2006
    berkeley
    La defence de Toluca es ************ pero en Mexico Toluca juega mejor.
    Colo Colo si esta dominando este partido , Colo colo es impresionante
     
  17. El_tri321mex

    El_tri321mex Member

    Oct 20, 2006
    berkeley
    Things will look tougher in mexico , Toluca managed to score a goal in chile that will complicate things for Colo Colo.:eek:
     
  18. Caturro

    Caturro Member

    Aug 3, 2004
    Chile
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    No esperaba que Colo Colo bajara el ritmo como lo hizo en el segundo tiempo. Esto le daba tiempo a la defensa de Toluca para reacomodarse.

    Aburrido segundo tiempo. Esperaba que fuera mas de ida y vuelta pero pocas veces los de Toluca ganaban los mano a mano. Se cerraron bien atras... a veces hasta con 9 DENTRO del area! :eek:

    Como se dieron las cosas, el partido en Toluca sera espectacular. Colo Colo, en lo que va de la Sudamericana, siempre ha anotado de visita... y no pierde desde aquel partido contra Bolognesi en Tacna. Toluca no podra quedarse atras ya que necesitan ganar.
     
  19. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Pachuca, Hidalgo
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    just saying if you want to take credit for people from other countries thats your business.

    the top mexican players also play in Europe (Spain, Holland, Germany basically).

    even our worst players wouldn't be caught dead playing in Chile:p

    this isn't World rivalries ;)
     
  20. JAIME CHILE

    JAIME CHILE Member+

    Apr 26, 2006
    V.Alemana y Stgo
    Club:
    Cobreloa Calama
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    ¿really?

    ¿do you know France NT?
     
  21. JAIME CHILE

    JAIME CHILE Member+

    Apr 26, 2006
    V.Alemana y Stgo
    Club:
    Cobreloa Calama
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Just for economic reasons, not for quality reasons.
     
  22. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Pachuca, Hidalgo
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    agreed
     
  23. BorrachoNJ

    BorrachoNJ New Member

    Apr 8, 2001
    NEW BRUNSWICK, NJ
    don't forget the middle east, broder.:D
     
  24. Nocturnal

    Nocturnal Member

    Jun 29, 2006
    Club:
    Pumas UNAM
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Matis Fernandez hell of a player If toluca can shut him down for the next game then they will have a good chance of winning
     
  25. Caturro

    Caturro Member

    Aug 3, 2004
    Chile
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Tranquilo Jaime, que los mexicanos webean por webear. Se nos viene la Copa America... ahi se ven los gallos :D

    Igual, es verdad que a Mexico no va lo mejorcito... osea, comparar a Droguett con Mark Gonzales es como comparar a un Plymouth con un Cadillac (sin offender a los que manejan un Plymouth).
     

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