Does anyone have statistics showing Dempsey's and Hernandez goals per minute? Or something along those lines?
Hernandez by a little bit I think. Its not about goals per minute though because Dempsey plays with worse players, and he is the focal point of defenses. Chicarito can come on as a second half super sub and just pop in goals because he has fresh legs and he isn't the focal point of defenses. Teams try to shut down Rooney, so they give more opportunities to other players, and Hernandez is a beneficiary of that.
To be honest, Dempsey wouldn't sniff the bench at United. And yes, because that's how it works. The opposition doesn't know anything about his pace and positioning, that's why he can just come on and pop in so many goals - no wonder he's never started a match. You would think by now, they would know who he is but i guess they only worry about shutting down Rooney. On a serious note, when Hernandez is on its almost the other way around. They try to stop Hernandez's runs and close him down while Rooney is the one who gets the free space, opening up chances for other players, and the whole team is the beneficiary of that.
They do play different positions; Hernandez is a poacher with great scoring instincts and great Finishing abilities. Dempsey is an Attacking Midfielder/Second Striker that creates and can score. Flip their positions and they wouldn’t be as effective, shit play them both at CB and they would both suck. Hernandez is great if you have a team that will create opportunities for a forward, drop Hernandez at Stoke and he would be lost since he would not be able to create many opportunities like say Jones who is a 1 person attack. Also Dempsey would probably get lost in top teams, both have their niche and are doing great at it. So who is the best? Depends on what you need, you need a guy to put the ball away inside the area then Hernandez is your guy, if you need a guy to help your team create opportunities then Dempsey is who you want.
A huge misconception about Hernandez is that he's only a poacher. This is the role SAF gave him and wants him at. He says in an interview somewhere when they asked him why he doesn't shoot outside the box more often (paraphrasing) he replies because thats not my role at the club, SAF gives me my instructions and i do as im told.
Hugo was also only a poacher, I think people misunderstand this; many strikers are poachers, which do not mean they can’t shoot. It just means they are more target forwards not Nimar type forwards, that run and dribble past multiple defenders. Poachers are better inside the box where they can shake defenders very quickly and get a shot off before other defenders fall on them. This is not easy, Finishing is key and Hernandez has show that finishing is his best asset. Being a poacher is not easy, also, many target forwards most be able to hold the ball and wait for other Wingers to come up, Hernandez is getting better at this. Jones is much better do to his size and speed, Hernandez will never be the prototypical big target forward, but many smaller target forwards have been very successful in the past, Hernandez can be more like say Higguain with Real Madrid, not really like say Drogba at Chelsea.
You are just showing your hate for Americans. Dempsey is one of the best players in the EPL, whether you like it or not. He could easily sniff the bench for Man U.
There's a difference between hatred towards a rival and a Country, I am American but i despise the National Team. Dempsey is good, he's having the season of his career at the moment - that is all. And it took him how many seasons to hit great form? He's also not one of the best players in the EPL, as much as you want it to be so, he's simply not consistent enough to be considered as one of the top players in the EPL. He's not even top 5 at his own position. He could easily sniff the bench for Man U. And yes, yes he could I'm sure that sick fuck is in to some kinky shit like that.
Maybe he would get more minutes at Man U than Gio at Spurs. Gio ridding bench is still a to 5-10 Concacaf player IMO.
You sound like you don't follow either the EPL or Fulham very much. Dempsey's currently the top scoring midfielder in the EPL, and was the top scoring midfielder in the EPL last year (some may say Van Der Vaart was, but any Spurs fan will tell you VDV played mostly as a second striker). EDIT: Malouda scored one more goal, Adam tied Dempsey. If you look at Dempsey's numbers the last five years, only Lampard and Gerrard have had a better five-year runs of goal scoring as midfielders in recent times, and even then Dempsey's very close to both of them. All this, and Dempsey plays for a team outside of the top five, and doesn't take PKs. BTW I think Hernandez is an excellent player. Relative to position, Dempsey is better, and it's not really close.
Its simple really one player comes from Chivas and Plays at ManUtd, the other comes from mls and plays at fulham. So you are right its not even close. Javier>Dempsey.
That's a pretty dumb argument. One could easily turn it around and say that Dempsey benefits from playing in a smaller team were he is guaranteed playing time and does not have the internal competition, nor the demands and expectations of a big club like man untd. And regardless of teammates, Javier scores. He's proven that with chivas, mxnt, and now man untd. Javier has struggled with injuries all this season and is still putting up decent scoring numbers while fighting for playing time with a good up and coming player in welbeck and a former scoring champion in berbatov. Regardless, both dempsey and chicharito are good players. mexican fans will say chicharo is better and americans will say dempsey. It's all good
Another point for Hernandez is that with out him Chivas is a shitty team, then again so is the Revolution.
Id say Marco Fabian is the missing piece that make the team look like shit. It was evident last night. With out Marco creating chances our forwards are non existent
hmm I would have to say dempsey right now. welbeck is playing great right now so chich is a super sub. if we compare which player is better in speed control technique dribble shot accuracy pass football intelligence positioning header/in the air see who ends up with more tallies in a category wins that category.
Well you do spazz like some of my fellow United Statians How about the kid getting a few minutes for the Defending European Champions. CL > EPL
Are you talking about Jonathan Dos Santos? Even as a US fan I have to acknowledge that Chicharito is the best from CONCACAF. Second place for me is Brad Friedel...........who of course plays every game for a team in the top 4 of the premier league. He won't win any votes on here, but Canadian Simeon Jackson is having a really nice year for Norwich.