When Big Sam is your backup plan - OTT 36 [R]

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  1. el-capitano

    el-capitano Moderator
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    Aug 30, 2005
    Sydney
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    League results mean sweet ******** all when it comes to the CL though. It doesn't even show the current form of the team. Liverpool have struggled to play against teams that park the bus in the EPL. Hence, their league results are poorer than some.

    However, against teams who actually play football in an attractive manner, they tend to do better, so those stats are meaningless, especially since the bus driver Mourinho is now out. ;)
     
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  2. el-capitano

    el-capitano Moderator
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    Aug 30, 2005
    Sydney
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Soton hire Mark Hughes. We should really add his name to the Moyes/ Allardyce/ Pulis/ Hodgson/ Pardew list. :eek:


     
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  3. soccerr9

    soccerr9 Member+

    Jun 6, 2005
    If you look at the teams that have usually advanced to the CL semifinals over the last couple of years at least 3 of 4 have a very high winning % in the league. You rarely see a semifinalist that wins less than 65-60% of their matches unless they had a favorable run to the semis.

    At this stage of the CL, the best teams don't play one way the entire 180 minutes. Even Barcelona have been far more pragmatic by pressing high, sitting deep, holding possession, building up play, counterattacking. Real did that on their way to winning 3 of 4. Teams that have a clear weakness or lack versatility in their style of play usually exit at this stage of the competition.
     
  4. bayern is god

    bayern is god Member+

    May 26, 2007
    india
    If Uefa is fixing the Draw

    Liverpool Vs Barcelona (The Coutinho angle)

    Man City Vs Bayern Munich (The Pep angle)

    Real Madrid Vs Juventus (Last Season Final Revenge angle)

    Sevilla Vs Roma (The Underdog angle)
     
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  5. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    OK, but do you have any idea what our stats were in 2005?
     
  6. soccerr9

    soccerr9 Member+

    Jun 6, 2005
    That year the semifinalists were:

    Milan - 82% win percentage
    PSV - 80%
    Chelsea - 76%
    Liverpool - 45%

    Liverpool 2004/2005 did something extraordinary to win the competition despite horrible league form. That is an anomaly. Even in that group of semifinalists, 3 out of 4 won greater than 75% of their matches which was the initial observation. That has been the case over the last couple of years as well. Usually at least 3 of 4 teams in the semifinals have outstanding league winning %.
     
  7. imasyko

    imasyko Member+

    May 16, 2002
    Spring City, PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We are....The Anomaly! And damn proud of it! :)
     
  8. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    hahahahahahahahahaha:

    UEFA have charged Beşiktaş for having a cat on the pitch against Bayern Munich yet Manchester United get away with having eleven pussies on the pitch against Sevilla. Scandalous.
     
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  9. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    LOL classic. :D
     
  10. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    The Arse were making it hard for themselves and go a goal down giving Milan a big chance to comeback. So Arsenal dive for a PK to make it 1-1 (3-1)

    Shitty way to win a game. :(

    Our friend Borini gets himself a yellow
     
  11. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One of the most blatant and amazing dives of all time. spurs would be proud!!
     
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  12. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    #912 usscouse, Mar 15, 2018
    Last edited: Mar 15, 2018
    There's another attempt to get a PK by Wilshere. He should have been yellow carded not waved off.

    Edit. There's another embellishment from arse. He kicked me in the face ref.

    And Arse score again from a keeper screw up. (4-1)
     
  13. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    Arse score again in the 85th minute. 5-1. Can they hold on...?
     
  14. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    How far Milan has fallen...!!!
     
  15. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    a lot of people complained that we let suso go and he was tearing it up in Italy.

    not a loss at all. Decent player - but that's it.
     
  16. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  17. burning247

    burning247 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    England
    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    That's pathetic.
     
  18. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Keïta and RB Leipzig through to the quarter finals of Europa. Went to Zenit - and got a very important away goal to put pressure on Zenit. Match finished 1-1.

    Keïta with a brilliant pass leading to a penalty that Werner missed that would have won the game outright. Keïta also was fouled and should have had his own penalty but the ref swallowed the whistle.

    This is good experience for him to get deep into a European competition as hopefully we are making another CL run next season.
     
  19. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Another good game from him, at least until it Zenit pinned them into their own half/box for that period before the match ended.
     
  20. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    not to mention a blatant handball by the Arse CB Chambers, that the ref ignored completely. not even a close call ffs. would have put the game on level terms.

    the dive for that pen was a disgrace. he must be a good friend of Dele Alli.
     
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  21. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hahaha!

    Mourinho with a 12-15 minutes rant today trying to use figures and stats to prove why they have had it so hard in Europe.

    He clearly used it to deflect from the abject failure of the Sevilla game. Predictably the usual sources in the media thought it was brilliant.

    Weird - same media that said Rafa was ranting when he did something similar.

    Thanks!
     
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  22. Red Bird

    Red Bird Member+

    Sep 30, 2003
    Oxford
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I think he's trying to take the headlines from the Man City Liverpool draw and doing it very well. I also thought, as with Rafa, he made some valid points (Man U knew what it was getting in terms of style with Mourinho) but the media never liked Benitez anyway.
     
  23. Red Bird

    Red Bird Member+

    Sep 30, 2003
    Oxford
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    ... of course, he singularly failed to address the £300 million he has spent, tee hee hee.
     
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  24. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Come on Brighton, make a great day even better.
     
  25. jeffcoop

    jeffcoop BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 11, 2006
    Central Indiana
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The first half has largely looked like a battle of equals.
     

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