What's changed since U.S. failed to qualify for 2018 World Cup? Sadly, nothing

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Lloyd Heilbrunn, Jun 12, 2018.

  1. False9

    False9 Member

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 31, 2018
    What does any of this have to do with the subject?

    You've already admitted that you don't care about anything except the World Cup

    You seem like nihilist and a terrible person to have at parties.
     
  2. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    #152 DHC1, Jun 26, 2018
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    You didn’t answer the question: it’s fine if you are or are not; just be up front about it, particularly as you’re a new poster while many here have “known” each other for decades(!)

    It’s one thing to say that we need not throw the baby out with the bath water and some of the criticisms are overboard; however, you’ve gone the complete other way and implied that any criticism is unwarranted because we just got unlucky and that relying on minor-league MB/JA was still the right call cuz they won the MLS cup.
     
  3. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    LOL. Now instead of sounding like don garber’s wife, you sound like mine. Is that you, sweetheart?

    You shouldn’t use big boy words that you don’t understand - thinking that we have higher expections than qualifying out of CONCACAF isn’t nihilistic. Heck, we have many posters here who expect us to make it to the R16 even when drawn against Germany, Portugal and Ghana. I’m not quite there yet but do expect us to make the WC and compete hard in the group.
     
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  4. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cable news syndrome.
     
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  5. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Shouldn't matter, ideas must be fought with ideas. Everything else is one or another fallacy (appeal to authority, ad hominem, false attribution, fallacy of composition/division, etc.).

    The only way to increase the information-to-noise ratio online is to stick to your guns: expose your theories, ideas, hypotheses, anecdotal evidence, mathematical conclusions, and observations, ignore the fallacies, don't try to present something as that which is not, and ignore attacks that are only there to increase the noise and derail any discussion from the informational POV.
     
  6. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "a massive racketeering conspiracy, money laundering, wire fraud . . . and more than $150 million in bribes tainting the League, its officials and a major shareholder."

    - Bill Edward's lawsuit against NASL.

    "a breach their fiduciary duties to the NASL."

    - NASL's lawsuit against US Soccer directors.

    Come on NASL, get some of these:
    [​IMG]
     
  7. False9

    False9 Member

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 31, 2018
    I didn't answer because the question was a sign of your weakness. You're obviously not very confident in your arguments.
     
  8. False9

    False9 Member

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 31, 2018
    No, I've said that the criticisms I've seen, including ones on BS, are unwarranted and silly.
     
  9. False9

    False9 Member

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 31, 2018
    You're really out of your league here and it's obvious. You have no real confidence in yourself or your arguments.

    You said that you don't care about the Copa America and the Gold Cup. Then you said that even an incompetent federation could qualify for the World Cup.

    So you only care about the World Cup itself.

    So why are you here? What's the point of all your whining and hand-wringing? Come back in 2022, sweetheart.
     
  10. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Hopefully by the time we suck so badly we're not even Top 6 in the region, FIFA expands the WC again, to 64 teams, with 9 going from CONCACAF.
     
  11. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here is some of the Old Boy Network shit we are dealing with:

    Alexi Lalas Retweeted


    Some unknown US fan responded.

     
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  12. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The whole idea of stopping pay-to-play is ridiculous. :rolleyes:

    IMG is a privately run sports academy which coaches tennis, golf, football, lacrosse, track and field, baseball, softball, baseball, softball and many other NCAA sports.

    How do you stop that? Show up with torches and pitchforks?

    What we need is alternatives to pay-to-play and they are happening.
     
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  13. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For one, real high schools can refuse to play them or be prohibited from playing them.


    But my post was really about the attitudes of the Good ole boys
     
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  14. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But then could they get a NCAA scholarship which is the whole point of most pricey p2p academies?

    I know.
     
  15. False9

    False9 Member

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 31, 2018
    I'd take the good ole boys every single day over the BS sycophants who think that any change is therefore good change.
     
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  16. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Speaking of pay to play...my daughter just got done with her freshman year, and she was a marginal starter on her JV team, which lost most of its games. She also plays challenge with NCFC. (Here, there are two levels above challenge.)

    From one of those two things, I got an email inviting her to a college showcase thingie. They only were asking for $700. There are supposed to be 50college coaches confirmed.

    Imagine if they get 100 girls to sign up. That’s a cool $70,000.
     
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  17. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Good Ole Boys are sniveling sycophants to Chicago House. Who exactly are those who seek change from the idiots who brought us utter failure for the last decade being 'sycophantic' with respect to? .................:coffee:
     
  18. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What's changed since the US failed to qualify for WC 2018?
    Well, at the moment of utter failure there was high hope that utter failure would provoke USSF into taking a long and hard and brutally honest look at its heavy responsibility in those utter failures.
    Now, there is no such hope.
     
  19. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    I have the admire the genius of my parents who guided me into a childhood of playing sports, but never to the point I'd be good enough for them to be coerced into the expensive upper tiers of youth sports.
     
  20. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    There is wisdom in mediocrity.
     
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  21. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    May 31st 2018 join date.

    So, you've been trolling about a month, or are a sock puppet....


    Bruce, is that you?
     
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  22. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Think of what they would charge you if she was a marginal starter on her varsity!
     
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  23. 50/50 Ball

    50/50 Ball Member+

    Sep 6, 2006
    USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We actually won 2 in 2010 but the Referee stole one.
     
  24. False9

    False9 Member

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 31, 2018
    Utter failure for the last decade?
    • Two World Cup Round of 16 appearances
    • A Confederations Cup Runner-up
    • Two Gold Cup championships
    • A Copa America Semifinal appearance
    This is what I mean. Deluded sycophants who don't have a clue what they're talking about.

    But, but pro/rel!

    But, but SUM!
     
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  25. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gulati resigning and US Soccer appointing its first General Manager are two things I can think of. Then there's putting out a line-up against France with an average age of 22.
     
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