What is the problem with Canada?

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  1. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    #2701 Robert Borden, Oct 23, 2019
    Last edited: Oct 23, 2019
    There are enough sources talking about this to post it :

    According to multiple sources, The Canadian Premier League is looking at changing it's roster rule in regards to signing Internationals.

    7 Internationals allowed
    • No more than 2 aged 28 years old or older out of 7
    • Up to 7 Internationals younger than 27 years old
     
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  2. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
     
  3. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
  4. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    The Canadian Premier League Finals are October 26 & November 2nd.

    It should be available free for everyone on CBC.ca as the national broadcaster is picking up both games.

    The trophy is scheduled to be revealed this Friday.

    The winner of the CPL Cup will represent Canada at the 2020 CONCACAF League
     
  5. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    3 Canadians in Europa League action today
    • Jonathan David (Gent) vs. Wolfsburg
    • Scott Arfield (Rangers) vs. Porto
    • Atiba Hutchinson (Besiktas) vs. Braga
     
  6. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
  7. Every Four Years

    May 16, 2015
    Miramar, Florida
    Nat'l Team:
    India
    Not sure if anyone here pays any attention to youth NT football (I don’t really either), but Canada is playing Brazil in the U17 WC opener right now. 2-0 at the break.

    Any promising youngsters for Canada? @Robert Borden
     
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  8. Every Four Years

    May 16, 2015
    Miramar, Florida
    Nat'l Team:
    India
    And tbc (it is now 3 btw) it is Brazil that is up lol.
     
  9. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Hard to answer this one. They lost 4-1 to Brazil but played well near the end of the game.

    It's a hard question to answer because no doubt they are promising talents for the 3 MLS teams in Canada but too soon to say for the national team.

    Soccer Canada has selected MLS academy players without evaluating talents outside those systems and that's becoming a problem that's catching more mainstream attention.

    It's a hard question to answer when so many other streams of talents are being ignored.
     
  10. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Forge won the 1st leg of the CPL Finals 1-0 over Cavalry
     
  11. Sam Miami

    Sam Miami Member

    Bayern Munich
    Germany
    Sep 11, 2019
    I have lived in California, several east coast urban areas of USA, and Toronto. The soccer culture of acceptance of multi-cultural involvement in Canada is a big edge on the USA for grass roots development of players. Future is bright with JH in charge.
     
  12. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How’s this work? Does the age only matter when they sign the initial contract? If you sign them and while under contract they go over the age will you not be able to resign them once their contract is up if you have two other players over the age under contract.

    I’m not specifically asking you just kinda wondering out-loud.
     
  13. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    From my understanding the age restriction is a hard limit if they copy the Algerian top league who has the same restriction.

    Anelka wasnt able to sign in Algeria because he was over 27:
    https://www.sudouest.fr/2015/01/12/...e-pourra-pas-jouer-en-algerie-1794481-766.php

    This is still a rumor but from what came out is that 2 Internationals wouldn't have any limits but the other 5 internationals must be younger.

    Rumors has it that the league was not happy with how Valour built their squad, to some extend Halifax and Edmonton as well. These 3 clubs finished bottom 3 with the oldest international signings.

    Another reason is economics. Older players with good resumes inflates the salaries while not necessarily performing to salaries expectations. To be honest, Canadians have been better on average than internationals that most likely earned more money on average.

    Best goal scorer
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    Also, the league has proved very capable at developing young talents. It makes sense for the league to prefer signing younger internationals
    • Lots of younger talent are being given up upon too fast and breaks through later. CPL can get them cheaper, nurture their talent, have their own stars and sell them high.
    Lots of MLS academies former players eliminated the Vancouver Whitecaps & defeated CONCACAF established teams.

    I'm warming up to the logic behind it.
     
  14. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
     
  15. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Looks like Atiba Hutchinson is back in form.
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    The USMNT will most likely face him in November due to Mark-Anthony Kaye injury. He's a genius at midfield and perfect for Herdman's system

    --------------------Davies--------David

    --------Arfield------------------------------Osorio
    -----------------Piette---Hutchinson

    Miller----Cornelius----Vitoria----Laryea

    --------------------------Borjan

    Bench:
    • Lucas Cavallini
    • Cyle Larin
    • Liam Millar
    • Sam Adekudbe
    • Juan Cordova
    • Liam Fraser
    • Doneil Henry
    • Maxime Crepeau
    • Marco Carducci
    • Stephen Eustaquio
    • David Wotherspoon
    • Dominic Zator
     
  16. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Good. Fraser is better.
     
  17. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Fraser isn't even close to his level
     
  18. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    #2718 Robert Borden, Nov 1, 2019
    Last edited: Nov 1, 2019
    Canada is eliminated from the U17 World Cup.

    More mainstream sports journalists are highlighting a problem within soccer Canada that needs to be rectified. The hope is that CPL will change the system.
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    Like he said, it's an exclusive system, not inclusive. Academies outside MLS system are systematically being ignored which makes no sense as they aren't covering all of Canada, therefore we have no guarantee that the best players are being selected. This needs to change.

    The good news is at the U23 level, it will change as the CanMNT coach John Herdman as appointed his assistant coach Mauro Biello (who will be the U23 head coach) as the dedicated scout for the CPL. Mauro Biello said that the scouting will be worldwide and not limited to just North America or MLS academies.
     
  19. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Alphonso Davies played 90 minutes in a 5-1 loss to Frankfurt.
     
  20. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    The king of the North has been crowned!

    Forge FC has won the CPL Championship 2-0 on aggregate.

    Hamilton will represent Canada at the 2020 CONCACAF League.
     
  21. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Cyle Larin is having his breakthrough in Europe.
    6 goals, 6 assists in 15 games- 1,335 minutes


    Steven Vitoria scores for his club in Portugal. Definitely has turned his career around in Poland and Portugal... He was instrumental in neutralizing the USMNT offense.
     
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  22. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
  23. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Fool's gold. He's not reliable in the crunch. But I expect Holland will turn a guilder or two over on the sale.
     
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  24. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Europa League day for Canada

    Scott Arfield & Rangers vs. Porto
    Jonathan David & Gent vs. Wolfsburg
    Atiba Hutchinson & Besiktas vs. Braga
     
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  25. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
     
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