What is the problem with Canada?

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by LouisianaViking07/09, Jun 11, 2016.

  1. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
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  2. Robert Borden

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    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
  3. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    The return for Stephen Eustaquio is a massive boost for the National team. He joined Canada earlier this year before his injury with Cruz Azul in Liga MX. At 22 years old, Stephen would become our #1 defensive midfielder after Atiba Hutchinson retirement ahead of Samuel Piette.
     
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  4. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
  5. felloveranddidanadu

    Plymouth Argyle
    Dec 12, 2009
    San Francisco
    Club:
    San Jose Frogs
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. um_chili

    um_chili Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    Losanjealous
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    These guys are gunning for us and they smell blood in the water with our recent crappy performances. Those are going to be some really challenging games, it would be a great outcome to get 4 of 6 points. And if we get 3 and 3, that will make advancing a challenge if both we and Canada get all 6 against Cuba bc it will come down to goal differential and they are looking great on that front.
     
  7. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I'm thinking that 4-2-3-1 works best for us against the USA.

    --------------------Cavallini

    ------Davies------David-------Hoillet

    -----------Arfield-----------Kaye (Hutchinson if healthy)

    Adekugbe--Cornelius--Vitoria--Laryea

    ------------------------Borjan
     
  8. felloveranddidanadu

    Plymouth Argyle
    Dec 12, 2009
    San Francisco
    Club:
    San Jose Frogs
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've been very impressed with Kaye when I've seen him with LAFC. Have his national team performances not been as good?
     
  9. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Yes, I found him very good for the national team, however, Hucthison is still considered as the superior option.

    I do rate Kaye above Jonathan Osorio
     
  10. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Possibly.
    However they did lose in embarrassing fashion to Haiti in their last official match prior to this break.
    So I am still leaning towards a close win in Toronto and in Orlando.
     
  11. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Finally, the Canucks present us with a worthy opponent :cool:
     
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  12. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Marcus Godinho won't be there nor was he this time.

    Laryea of TFC seemed to have won RB spot. Davies won't be LB
    Henry is suspended, good riddance, Steven Vitoria will replace him at CB.

    We made defensive changes.

    Question is, can the USMNT defense stop Cavallini, David, Davies, Hoillet?

    Which midfield will dictate the game?

    Sounds like an exciting game for sure
     
  13. um_chili

    um_chili Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    Losanjealous
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Was that the 3-2 loss in the Gold Cup? That wasn't such an embarrassing loss IMO. Both teams played well, and Haiti is no joke, a much improved team in Concacaf.
     
  14. VBCity72

    VBCity72 Member+

    Aug 17, 2014
    Oki, J-pan
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It is when they were up 2-0 at halftime and would go on to give up 3 unanswered goals.
     
  15. gogorath

    gogorath Member

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    They also have a ton to play for.

    Win the group, and they have a really good shot at being in the hex.

    Lose to us in Toronto, and they are almost certainly out of the hex.
     
  16. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Exactly. Within the context it was embarrassing to lose a game like that. Especially when their manager was talking trash about a Semi in the Gold Cup with Mexico.

    If this match were in Montreal or Vancouver with a hostile environment maybe I would be concerned a bit more.
    But in Toronto? I see it being more of a stale environment with USA fans making the trip up there and probably being as loud.
    I see something like 1-1 at halftime and us sneaking out with a 2-1 somehow.
     
  17. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Talking thrash? You sure about that?
    He said his goal was to reach the semi-finals against Mexico...not exactly talking trash as it's normal to set objectives
     
  18. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    After the Mexico loss he arrogantly said that there would be a rematch in the semis.
    That can be construed as talking trash to a team like Haiti.
     
  19. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    He said he was rotating because he had "planned" for the Semifinals.

    At that time, he had no clue yet that Haiti had beaten Costa Rica.

    So he wasn't talking thrash to Haiti either.
     
  20. Centennial

    Centennial Member+

    Apr 4, 2003
    Centennial
    Just a simple case of arrogance.
     
  21. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    #2546 Robert Borden, Sep 13, 2019 at 4:58 PM
    Last edited: Sep 13, 2019 at 5:04 PM
    Of course, overconfidence/arrogance that's not thrashing another team.
     
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  22. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    What does Herdman get paid apporox, if you don't mind me asking. I'm just wondering how seriously the federation is taking this cycle.
     
  23. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    They wouldn't published the numbers but it's long term... like 2026 at the minimum long term...

    He's not only the manager but also the TD from U14 to senior. He's tasked to fixed the pathway from youth level to the National team like he did for the women's side.

    Mauro Biello is the assistant coach and head coach of the U23 team. He's also the dedicated scout/liaison for the Canadian Premier League
     
  24. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    True.
    Maybe talking trash was not the appropriate term.
    Just seems to me to be a bit of silly arrogance when he was looking to the Semis instead of his next opponent in a post game press conference.
     
  25. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    No one's defending his management of the tournament. He had the right idea but not studying Haiti cost us. (He expected Costa Rica and prepared for them)

    He learned a valuable lesson and to his credit, owned up to his mistake
     

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