Welcome to Old Trafford #7 Alexis Sánchez :)

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  1. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

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  2. Ashur

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  3. doubletrouble

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    Manchester United
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    Dec 16, 2003
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    He will score two against Newcastle
     
  4. Ashur

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  5. Ashur

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    Reports have surfaced of how the Arsenal dressing room did not care for Alexis.

    www.balls.ie/football/reports-emerge-much-arsenal-dressing-room-hated-alexis-sanchez-385008

    It's really not much of a surprise tbh. We've seen clearly how frosty things looked between Alexis and his teammates at Arsenal at the end of his stay at Arsenal. He wants to win, above all else, so when his expectations are not met, it's no wonder he must be a hard guy to be around.
    Not to mention that the lackadaisical attitude towards excelling and winning at that club, must have driven him nuts. He made it very clear as soon as he won the FA Cup in his first season at the club that he was looking forward to challenge for the big trophies: big fail in that dept...
     
  6. gatekeeper2

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    Jun 1, 2015
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    Concern about Sanchez's form is warranted, but he was after a January transfer and it's generally fairly difficult for a January transfer to make a massive, instant impact.

    Still, I have my doubts as to whether Sanchez is a good fit for us. Probably, but maybe not.
     
  7. Ashur

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    Mourinho expects Sanchez to be at his best next season.

    www.espn.com/soccer/manchester-united/story/3417730/jose-mourinho-alexis-sanchez-will-be-even-better-by-manchester-next-season?src=com

    Precisely why bringing him in at this time was the right move. Not only gives Sanchez a few more months to get used to the club and his new teammates, but it also gives Jose the time to figure out where he will fit better in the context of the team.
    Couple that with a full summer off (his first in 4yrs btw) and we can expect to see Sanchez at his world class best next season, right from the start of the season.
     
  8. United 16

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  9. United 16

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  10. MizzouMUFC

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    42 times is absolutely inexcusable. That's ground for getting benched for a couple games after a shocker like that.
     
  11. United 16

    United 16 Member+

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    Jose should try one game without him. Let's see if that brings any improvement to our formation.
     
  12. Naboomagnoli

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    May 31, 2007
    I didn’t watch the game last night but based on the average touch position map I saw, and previous games in general, we desperately need to start telling our players to stick to their positions far more often. Fluidity is fine, but it also needs players to realise when the best thing they can do for the team is hug the touchline and create space for others.

     
  13. Ashur

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    It's time for Sanchez to get dropped - Charlie Nicholas

    www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/11288963/alexis-sanchez-does-not-deserve-to-be-in-manchester-united-team-says-charlie-nicholas

    Sanchez's performance level simply has not been up to scratch, it's that simple. And that's why, for the good of the team, for the time being he needs to be dropped.
    Not only it will perhaps give Jose a chance to find out how best to use him in the context of the team as a whole. But also, it just might give Sanchez the desire to really prove himself when he does have an opportunity. His salary r status gives him no divine right to start, that much is certain.
     
  14. jeff070

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    That goes back to the coach of teaching the when and where concept. Citeh players know that, if Silva slides to the left Sane will not stay on the touchline he ll to the middle to create a passing lane, etc... you get the point.

    I still do not know what Mourinho's football philosophy is, can someone please explain to me? (not the psychology stuff)
     
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  15. United 16

    United 16 Member+

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  16. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    I think this is still on Jose. There's been a handful of times this year where the wide players held their position and provided width. Its after he brought on certain players [basically Rashford and Martial]. There's been one or two occasions where Mata was hugging the touchline for an extended period. Almost like last resorts in some games where we couldnt break down the opposition.

    -------------------------------

    I would not bench Sanchez at all. I realize things dont look good. He needs to play to get to know his teammates. He needs to adjust [unfortunately Jose will be here for at least another year] Jose's "game plan".

    I really hope we just play him upfront with Lukaku.

    DDG

    TFM
    Bailly
    Lindelof
    Young

    Herrera
    McTominay

    Mata
    Sanchez
    Martial

    Lukaku
     
  17. Chaz Striker

    Chaz Striker Member+

    Jul 26, 2005
    Denver
    Personally, I think Sanchez's problem is trying too hard. He needs to settle the ******** down.
     
  18. Ashur

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    He needs to first and foremost stick to a much more forward position on the pitch. So he can actually do what he does best and have a real influence on the attack.
    Him dropping deep and be another de facto CM does him, nor the team/attacking scheme no good at all (especially when he's as prone as losing the ball as he is).
     
  19. Sofabloke

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    My read on it is the Mou is not a passing / possession manager like the Barca/Arsenal teams Sanchez is used to. Mou has the full backs and centre mids on a fairly tight leash, so Sanchez just doesn't get the options on support he is used to for short one-twos etc.

    Also if you were an oppo team, after Lukaku who would you prioritise marking? Lingard and Mata are not that dangerous aways from goal and Martial / Rash are having to play the wrong wing - so teams seem to be doubling-up on Sanchez with ease.

    Plus he is also in new-guy hero / trying too hard mode - so he keeps doing too many take-ons and giving the ball away.

    Personally would get him away from LWF as Martial / Rash most effective there (and is killing the space Pogs wants to use when he plays).

    Would prefer Sanchez as SS or #10 - if he can roam and be a more advanced then harder to double-up on him and fewer players for him to have to beat (he seems to be running into trouble a long way out).
     
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  20. jeff070

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    If he is not a possession/passing manager, so he is a defensive manager and we hired him knowing that to get results and we know defensive tactics only get so many results.
     
  21. jeff070

    jeff070 Member+

    Dec 31, 2004
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    My problem is this heat map is simple. Mourinho is trying to play short passing link up play with this front players, I am good with that.

    1) Look at the space between the front players and the full backs. There is no outlet for the front four when they run out of options or when they want to stretch Sevilla. The full backs are too far behind, by the time they do come over the final third like Young he is double teamed because the opposition has time to regroup. We were defending too deep.

    2) Look at the gap between the midfield number 14 and number 31. Another big gap, another difficulty to keep the ball when under pressure as there is no outlet. when our player plays the ball backwards to Matic, he is too far away to keep the pressure in the final third, so he has to play it back to the center back. We saw smalling and Bailly being pressured by Muriel and Vazquez centrally and Sarabia and Correa on the full backs.

    Solution under Mourinho:

    1) McTominay links the midfield with his positioning and simple passing, he is the rope between Matic and the front four, he needs to play.
    2) A ball playing center back needs to partner Bailly, preferably Jones for me or Blind. Push the line up higher get the front attackers closer to their defense midfield (Matic).
     
  22. Ashur

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  23. jmartin1966

    jmartin1966 Member+

    Jun 13, 2004
    Chicago
    if he's not going to do anything on the left, he might as well not do anything on the right instead

    Martial should play on the left
     
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  24. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jun 4, 2006
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    this is what i was afraid of when i said i didn't think either player in the swap would work out.

    i was hoping city would have taken him and forced him into a well oiled machine and ruin it. instead we are the ones trying to crowbar him into a side that was at least partially functional.

    i hope he comes good but between formation and our coach i can't see it at the moment
     
  25. JC7rox

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    Jun 11, 2004
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    These players do not perform because they are not given the platform to perform. Fergie, with these same players, would have the club in a much better position.
     
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