USL and NASL news 2018

Discussion in 'New England Revolution' started by NFLPatriot, Jan 3, 2018.

  1. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  2. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I currently count 34 USL teams scheduled for 2018.

    There are 23 MLS teams, 21 have affiliates (NE and MIN don't).

    That leaves 13 available affiliates:
    Charleston Battery
    Colorado Springs Switchbacks FC
    FC Cincinnati
    Fresno FC
    Las Vegas Lights FC
    Louisville City FC
    Nashville FC
    North Carolina FC
    Penn FC
    Phoenix Rising FC
    Sacramento Republic FC
    St Louis FC
    Tampa Bay Rowdies
     
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  3. Argyle

    Argyle Member

    Jan 31, 2002
    Plymouth, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not sure if this will make anyone feel better:

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In 2018 we will have looser partnerships w/ a few teams. For future, working with a group in Hartford who are trying to get a USL team</p>&mdash; Brian Bilello (@RevsPrez) <a href="
    ">December 17, 2017</a></blockquote>
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  4. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Far be it for me to be a Grammar Nazi, but an MIT grad ought to know how to spell "loser." As in, "we will have loser partnerships, just like the ones we had with Ra-cha-cha and Sporting, that clearly demonstrated just what kind of losers we really are in this area."
     
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  5. BERich

    BERich Member+

    Feb 3, 2012
    New England
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In 2018 we will have looser partnerships w/ a few teams.

    Translation: We have no formal agreements with anybody. We didn't use the affiliate we had an agreement with, so you shouldn't expect us to be any different with teams we don't have agreements with.

    I have come to the conclusion that a great deal of blame can be laid at the feet of the Boston media. They ignore the Revs completely, as their only focus are the Patriots. The Revs on the other hand love the situation. The front office stays under the radar, bumbles along and except for a hand full of people on this forum, nobody knows any different.
     
  6. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Man, you really could just use "We are working" on with everything the Revs FO does, because so little actually gets accomplished. But as long as you say you're working on ("New Signings," a "New Partnership," a "New Stadium.") ...

    Is this the new "they're trying?"
     
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  7. A Casual Fan

    A Casual Fan Member+

    Mar 22, 2000
    It's all about word choice.

    "We Are Working" better serves Revs, as it obfuscates whether they are succeeding yet or not.

    "We Are Trying" was too transparent for Revs, as it is commonly interpreted to mean "we've not yet had any success."
     
  8. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I like the southern way of phrasing things. The term "fixin' to" is always the precursor to actually doing anything.

    So they could say "We're fixin' to start thinking about having a meeting to brainstorm about considering to have a plan for signing a couple (but not too many) new players this winter."

    They're just "fixin' to" do it--they didn't actually take the first step just yet. Gotta measure....
     
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  9. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    The prospect of an affiliation with a Hartford USL team sounds promising, but it's too bad they are waiting for someone else to do it - and that's it not a reality yet.
     
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  10. Crooked

    Crooked Member+

    May 1, 2005
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    While a Hartford affiliate would be far more convenient than Rochester, it's still problematic if the Revs don't have total control over the club. I want the Revs dictating how our affiliate is playing from a style perspective, who is getting minutes, etc.
     
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  11. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed, but it's just the Revs doing what they do best: waiting
    Mx9, Cx1 (Measure 9 times, cut once)
     
  12. Argyle

    Argyle Member

    Jan 31, 2002
    Plymouth, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed. If the Krafts really wanted to do something smart, they'd just buy the Rhinos.
    Not gonna happen, I know.
     
  13. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Would they then become the Rochester Revving Rhinos? ;)
    [​IMG]
     
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  14. El Chico Carmona

    Mar 10, 2015
    Baraboo, Wisconsin
    Club:
    FC Dallas
  15. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That doesn't happen in the US/Canada apart from maybe LA or a handful of top clubs that get it.
     
  16. Argyle

    Argyle Member

    Jan 31, 2002
    Plymouth, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Aren't some USL teams directly controlled by MLS teams?
     
  17. BERich

    BERich Member+

    Feb 3, 2012
    New England
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seven USL teams are a II, as in LA Gals II.
     
  18. Brian in Boston

    Brian in Boston Member+

    Jun 17, 2004
    MA & CA, USA
    Bethlehem Steel FC - owned and operated by Keystone Sports & Entertainment, the parent company of the Philadelphia Union.

    Los Angeles Galaxy II - owned and operated by Anschutz Entertainment Group, the parent company of the Los Angeles Galaxy.

    New York Red Bulls II - owned and operated by Red Bull GmbH, the parent company of the New York Red Bulls.

    Orlando City B - owned and operated by Orlando City SC.

    Portland Timbers 2 - owned and operated by Peregrine Sports LLC, the parent company of the Portland Timbers.

    Real Monarchs - owned and operated by Dell Loy Hansen, owner of Real Salt Lake.

    Seattle Sounders FC 2 - owned and soccer operations run by Seattle Sounders FC, with day-to-day business operations run by the Baseball Club of Tacoma (aka the Tacoma Rainiers).

    Swope Park Rangers - owned and operated by Sporting Club, the parent company of Sporting Kansas City.

    Toronto FC II - owned and operated by Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment, the parent company of Toronto FC.

    Additionally, a pair of expansion franchises are set to join the United Soccer League in 2018, both of which will be owned and operated by entities with ties to Major League Soccer teams.

    Atlanta USL - owned and operated by Arthur Blank, owner of Atlanta United FC.

    Nashville SC -owned and operated by DMD Soccer, which is majority-owned by John Ingram's Nashville Holdings LLC, the parent company for Major League Soccer's recently-awarded Nashville expansion team.
     
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  19. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    I disagree - they are too far apart and there is on natural affinity between the two clubs.
     
  20. Crooked

    Crooked Member+

    May 1, 2005
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    It's roughly 1/3 of the teams in the league now.
     
  21. Argyle

    Argyle Member

    Jan 31, 2002
    Plymouth, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Distance and affinity wouldn't matter much if they have control.
    To use a different sport as an example, the Yankees AAA team is in Scranton.
     
  22. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Indy Eleven to USL doesn't seem to be a done deal, yet. Could come this week though.

    However, two NASL clubs have folded, including defending champion SF Deltas (FC Edmonton the other), leaving NASL with only 7 clubs. If Indy jumps, that will drop NASL to 6.

    NASL may not be finished, but the fat lady is warming up her vocal chords...
     
  23. El Chico Carmona

    Mar 10, 2015
    Baraboo, Wisconsin
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    USL has an expansion announcement this afternoon.
    Interestingly, Jacksonville Armada haa a press conference scheduled just a little earlier in the day.
     
  24. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    That's not a good example - Scranton is only a 2 hour drive (and is easily accessible by public transportation). Basically, it's equivalent to Boston <-> Hartford.

    I work with people in Rochester and go there a few times/year - it's not close or easy to get to - and the Rhinos fans I know there have no special affinity for the Revs (and, I think the association we had with the Empire clubs isn't still in effect, but I'm not sure about that). One of the guys I worked with coached with them and said he basically had nothing to do with the Revs.

    The Red Sox have farm teams close and far, but there is clearly a lot more affinity with the nearby teams (Pawtucket, Lowell, Portland). Celtics and Bruins have their teams within 2 hours. There's no reason the Revs should be looking to set up or associate with teams further than NE - having a USL team in NE would build interest in both clubs, unlike Rochester, Pittsburgh, ...
     
  25. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Being closer is helpful, but not a necessity.

    The Rapids USL affiliate since 2015 is the Charlotte Independence, despite the Colorado Switchbacks being available and in the same state.
     

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