News: USL and NASL News 2016

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  1. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It almost would make sense to have 4 or 5 regional leagues around the country like minor league baseball does. Given the healthy interest, perhaps Florida could have its own league.

    In addition to grassroots development of the sport in communities around the state, the goal could be to work hard to develop kids through that system (perhaps working with IMG in Bradenton and similar academies).

    The benefits would be teams having limited travel, making it easier to turn a profit for these smaller clubs, enhanced local marketing efforts and an opportunity to perhaps evaluate each league's development efforts separately to see what's going well and what's not.

    Perhaps replicate this approach regionally around the country then report the best players to the national level. The teams drawing the most and with the strongest org could then be on Garber's shortlist for eventually moving up to MLS. Kind of merit-based promotion.
     
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  2. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Three of the Florida teams are in the bottom 5 of average NASL attendance this year. Only Tampa (4th) is above the league average.

    Still, NASL is averaging 5,106 in attendance through July 2nd, which is better than USL's average of 3,522 (thru June 6th).

    The influx of MLS-owned teams has really hurt USL attendance.

    Of the 29 teams, the highest attendance for an MLS-owned club is Bethlehem Steel FC (PHI), ranked 13th. Six of the bottom 7 are MLS owned. NYRB2 is last, with only 334 average (no, that is not missing a digit).

    Eight of the 11 MLS-owned clubs are averaging less than 2,000.
     
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  3. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sean Okoli has 8 goals for FC Cincinnati, tied for 5th most in USL.
     
  4. BERich

    BERich Member+

    Feb 3, 2012
    New England
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have been advocating some type of regional based development for years - yeah I know, as if someone cares what I say :(. Baseball is a great example of developing players. The Sox have 3 all stars 26 years old and under. And more in the pipeline. We need that kind of output and development in the game of football (soccer).
     
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  5. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    US women's pro soccer should do that - and then have regional "all-star" teams play a regular schedule against each other (kind of like a Champions League for US women, making up the "premier league"). That way the USWNT stars could play in a lot of regional games with their local teams, helping to bring interest and raise the level of play and then play in bigger-draw national events, targeted at the bigger audiences/national TV.

    It's a different concept that any US sport (or world, AFAIK), but why not try a different way?
     
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  6. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good idea on the women's approach. The status quo approach to development simply is not working. Something needs to change. The best way to tackle a large challenge is to break it down into smaller manageable parts. This is one potential way to do that.

    MLS teams owning lower division clubs is a mistake. The league is in a growth stage still and there simply isn't enough capital and resources to properly market,and manage lower division clubs, which is always a challenge even for the well established sports. NYRB is the perfect example. Better to run them as a separate entity at this point in the league's evolution.
     
  7. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well said. Baseball would be great to emulate from a development perspective.
     
  8. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When's MLS starting a 60 round draft? ;)
     
  9. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jay Heaps wasn't at practice today because he was scouting at the local high schools... ;)
     
  10. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's a great idea, and would solve a number of problems. Right now, the ridiculous lawsuit the USWNT is pushing has shed some light on what a ludicrous, top-heavy system the women's game has. The salaried players are guaranteed their NT spots and it is nearly impossible for an outsider to break their way in. The class of 99 fought for gains that benefited this generation of players, but these ones are only out to line their pockets as much as they can, with no regard for the future NT players.

    Having a viable pro league is the best way to ensure a strong NT, and that fresh players can get in every cycle and it doesn't become a closed club.
     
  11. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  12. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  13. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Now saying 11pm earliest. BCFC has a 8am flight tomorrow morning...
     
  14. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    wow and they are only at the half...
     
  15. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They're in extra time now, still scoreless.
     
  16. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ouch...only one hour of sleep...but they have landed back at Logan:

    Legacy rallies to win 5-4 in kicks from the spot after 0-0 game in @NPSLSoccer playoffs.
    Boston City FC had led 3-1 in kicks. twitter.com/Legacy76NPSL/s…
     
  17. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They had led 3-2 going into their fifth kick (they were first). Make it, and you're done. They hit the post (for the second time). Legacy tied it, they both scored their sixth, BCFC's 7th was saved and that was it.

    Great debut season for the team though.
     
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  18. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Beginning of the end for NASL?

    NASL faces major shakeup, potential demise, amid impending exits, financial distress
    Brian Straus
    Wednesday September 21st, 2016
    SI.com

     
  19. VTSoccerFan

    VTSoccerFan Member+

    New England Revolution, Vermont Catamounts, NCFC
    United States
    Jun 28, 2002
    Cary, NC
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There is kind of a Kraft snub in this article as well.

    "
    MLS’s model certainly took time to gain traction. At the end of its sixth season, the Tampa Bay Mutiny and Miami Fusion folded and the league likely would have died if not for Phil Anschutz and Lamar Hunt. In 2005, its 10th season, MLS finally returned to 12 teams with the additions of Real Salt Lake and Chivas USA, each of which paid all of $7.5 million to get in. Next year, it’ll add Atlanta (team No. 21) and Minnesota (No. 22), who each paid an expansion fee of more than $100 million. The NASL can only hope that it weathers its seventh-season storm in similar fashion.
    "
     
  20. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That they didn't mention Kraft along with Anschutz and Hunt? Hunt had 3 teams, Kraft had one, plus a couple of years where he paid the bills (but did not operate) San Jose, and Anschutz owned the rest. Not to take anything away, but of the 3, Kraft did the least.

    The whole NASL is a mess and soccer as a whole would be better off if the remaining teams ended up in the USL. There would be enough teams to create 4 regional leagues to cut down on the travel expenses so they could actually survive on a gate of 4-5,000 per game. As for the Cosmos, I laugh in your general direction! Good riddance!
     
  21. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Going regional makes the most sense at this point given the financial issues they're facing. MLS technically went out of business in November 2001 so it was damn close - and the NASL has nowhere near the same clout with investors to weather the storm. The smart and strategic move would be to consolidate and make sure the business is sound before doing anything else.
     
  22. abecedarian

    abecedarian Member+

    Mar 25, 2009
    SSSomerville
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And now he has 15. So why did the Revs just cut the guy, and not send him to Rochester?
     
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  23. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, I don't know what talent he has around him in Cincy, plus the competition is obviously not as good. It's possible their coaching staff are able to optimize his strengths. While he was here, he was the poster child of Heaps's inability to develop young guys, forwards in particular. Okoli was pretty raw when he came here, didn't get minutes and looked pretty bad when he did. I don't think any of us shed a tear when he was released.
     
  24. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was a little disappointed they cut him, especially after they had just sent him to Portugal for 3 weeks to train with our "partner". There shouldn't be any reason he couldn't do for Rochester what he has done for Cincy. It's not like we don't have any roster spots available...
     
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  25. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fifteen goals, eh? I was just reading about another guy who scored 15 in USL:

    Armchair Analyst: A loan that changed the evolution of the league
    September 21, 2016, 6:08PM EDT
    Matthew Doyle

    I wonder what ever happened to that Dwyer guy?
     

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