USA vs Paraguay June 11th [R]

Discussion in 'Group A - USA, Colombia, Costa Rica, Paraguay' started by sidspaceman, May 31, 2016.

  1. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Country:
    Colombia
    Gameday thread
     
  2. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Country:
    Bolivia
    Looks like a must watch game. Hopefully a good game with goals.

    A tie will probably be fine for the US unless CR manage to score 6 against Colombia!
     
  3. Dr. Gamera

    Dr. Gamera Member+

    Oct 13, 2005
    Wheaton, Maryland
    Advancement scenarios:

    USA win, Colombia win or draw: Colombia 1st, USA 2nd.

    USA win, Colombia loss: USA 1st, Colombia 2nd.

    USA draw, Colombia win or draw or loss by 1 to 5 goals: Colombia 1st, USA 2nd.

    USA draw, Colombia loss by 6 goals: Colombia 1st, USA or Costa Rica 2nd depending on goals-scored tiebreaker (if same goals scored, USA advances on head-to-head win over Costa Rica.)

    USA draw, Colombia loss by 7 or more goals: Colombia 1st, Costa Rica 2nd.

    USA loss, Colombia win or draw or loss by 1 to 3 goals: Colombia 1st, Paraguay 2nd.

    USA loss, Colombia loss by 4 or more goals: Colombia 1st, Paraguay or Costa Rica second depending on goal-differential tiebreaker (if same goal differential, continue down the tiebreaker list.)
     
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  4. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Country:
    Bolivia
    Oh nos!!! It's another can't lose game. Can we handle the pressure? :rolleyes:
     
  5. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Such an interesting game. Paraguay usually likes to sit back and let the game come to them but they really can't afford to do that. The need to be the aggressor. And if that is the case the USA can take advantage on counter attacks.

    Only problem is if they don't take advantage Paraguay might find a way to score a goal.
    Paraguay knows how to defend a lead and put all 10 field players in the box bunker style so the USA must score first.

    All-in-all I think the home field will be enough. Along with Paraguay being dead tired after the Colombia match & having to travel the most miles. (Orlando-Pasadena-Philly is brutal.)

    Something like 2-0 USA.
     
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  6. Gilma1990

    Gilma1990 Member+

    Jul 30, 2015
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Country:
    United States
    We will lose.
     
  7. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Why?
     
  8. Gilma1990

    Gilma1990 Member+

    Jul 30, 2015
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Country:
    United States
    Because JK is our coach.
     
  9. SiempreCrema

    SiempreCrema Member+

    Feb 4, 2015
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Country:
    Peru
    I also think Paraguay will win. Probably 1-0 or something.
     
  10. oliveandblue

    oliveandblue Member

    Jul 7, 2015
    United States
    Club:
    DC United
    1-1. Paraguay will show up. The USA will leave the game unsure of their own fate, needing a decent result from the COL vs CRC game.
     
  11. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Unsure of their fate?
    Costa Rica would have to beat Colombia by 6 goals to qualify.
    You really think that can happen?
     
  12. dsilva625

    dsilva625 New Member

    Jun 9, 2012
    Boca Raton, FL
    Club:
    Olimpia Asuncion
    Country:
    Paraguay
    This is a twilight zone game for Paraguay. The current team has more talent up front than in the back, but have refused to change their style of play from their traditional defending/countering. The results should force them to attack, which actually plays to their current strength (even if the coach refuses to acknowledge it).

    The US are best when countering though, so this is a game that can really go either way and will depend on when that first goal falls in.

    That childish red by Romero might end up making all the difference. He is a key cog in the middle that Paraguay will be missing.
     
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  13. ATLfirefan

    ATLfirefan Member

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 8, 2005
    Dacula, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Country:
    United States
    I think that Jurgen starts either Nagbe or Pulisic.
     
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  14. johnblue123

    johnblue123 Member

    Jun 2, 2014
    I see a tie or a 1-goal victory by the USA.
     
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  15. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Ft. Myers
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Country:
    Colombia
    Paraguay win, 2-1
     
  16. johnblue123

    johnblue123 Member

    Jun 2, 2014
    Sorry buddy. They looked good the second half against Colombia but I feel like they shot all their bullets and are out of ammo.
     
  17. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Already 50,000 tickets sold for this one and more are expected by game time.
    Could be pushing for the best PRo-USA crowd ever for an official match.
    USA's got this!
    U-S-A!
     
  18. Pipiolo

    Pipiolo Member+

    Jul 19, 2008
    Country:
    Argentina
    Paraguay wins it, 2-1.
     
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  19. SiempreCrema

    SiempreCrema Member+

    Feb 4, 2015
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Country:
    Peru
    Ramon Diaz will likely make several changes in the lineup, as he usually does. Whether that's an advantage or disadvantage I don't know but the reason I think Paraguay will win is because in my opinion they have better players and also are a fighter team. Not sure if the USA are or not but Paraguay are probably the second biggest fighters in South America. Second to Uruguay.

    Derlis Gonzales and Dario Lezcano should start. I'll admit I criticized Villar at the beginning of the tournament wonder why Silva wasn't starting but he proved me wrong.
     
  20. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    The USA will be fighting out there too. Especially since it is rare to fight in front or a large home audience that will be rooting for them.
    We have seen the fighting spirit for the USA the last two World Cups.
    This being at home will probably place it up a couple notches.
     
  21. SiempreCrema

    SiempreCrema Member+

    Feb 4, 2015
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Country:
    Peru
    Never said they wouldn't, surely they will but my point was Paraguay have shown more fight out of any team in the america's several times in the qualifiers, copa america's, and world cup's.

    In terms of quality, Paraguay edge it in my opinion. Most of the USA's best players play in the MLS, and the one's that don't are either still developing or just aren't very good. Paraguay has good players playing in Argentina, Brazil and Mexico and that's where South Americans should be playing for a team like Paraguay. I've been saying for the past few months that if Peru wants to qualify for another World Cup, their players will probably need to play in those leagues mentioned rather than Europe, league's in which they will get playing time and play at a decent standard. Lets not forget how well Paraguay have done in the Copa Libertadores since 2010.

    As I said, most of the USA's best players, Dempsey, Bradley the 2 examples, play in the MLS. I've seen both the MLS and the Peruvian league and I can here say its of a similar standard. The MLS looks good because of the designated players and that's the only thing that sets the 2 league's apart. Both are of a very low standard. That's what happened to the USA in my eyes. The best Americans in Europe decided to go back to the MLS and their level fell and it impacted the national team. I of course could be wrong but the MLS really does not impress me.

    Peru called up a bunch of Peruvian league players this team, but we called up the in form players (for the most part) and they're performing well. As I've said, form over stars is the way to go. I'm not sure how Dempsey is doing for his club but Seattle are not in a good position at the moment.
     
  22. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    #22 HomietheClown, Jun 11, 2016
    Last edited: Jun 11, 2016
    The game has nothing to do with MLS Clubs or any other clubs. It has to do with the teams on the field in Philly.
    And the USA has the intangibles along with the simple fact that they don't need to win to advance.
    All the Pressure is on Paraguay to go for the win or they are dead.

    We shall see though. Pretty even teams.
     
  23. taylor

    taylor Member+

    Jun 9, 2000
    Fav team: FC CARL ZEISS JENA
    Club:
    --other--
    Country:
    Germany
    so if we lose by 2 goals we are out, correct?
     
  24. Boloni86

    Boloni86 Member+

    Jun 7, 2000
    Baltimore
    Club:
    DC United
    Country:
    Gibraltar
    If the US loses by any result they're out. If the US gets a draw they're 99% through unless Costa Rica pulls a miracle and beats Colombia by many goals.

    Sometimes only needing one point can make teams play cautious which invites the other team to attack. On the other hand if Paraguay scores the first goal maybe they become defensive and the US will have to start pressing.
     
  25. dsilva625

    dsilva625 New Member

    Jun 9, 2012
    Boca Raton, FL
    Club:
    Olimpia Asuncion
    Country:
    Paraguay
    Vamos Paraguay! Tough game, but i think the talent edge goes to the south Americans.

    Well see how they handle the pressure of having to win though.

    Should be one of the better games of the Copa either way.
     

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