US women soccer players want equal pay to US men's team.

2015 of course both of which are inthe time frame that’s the subject of the suit


What’s obvious is that people are bending over waaay backwards to push a narrative here tha doesn’t hold water. There’s a likely explanation and it ain’t pretty

 

Not sure why you mean by throwing them under the bus. Pointing that women get paid less for substantially equal work is a required element of the claim.

 

"Merits or efforts"? Just working hard doesn't mean you should get paid. Everyone works hard, from Alex Morgan to the U13/14 BNT/GNT.

Should they all get paid the same?

 

This can't be said enough.

The women aren't even equal within their own team and it's the veteran players who made it that way.

And want to keep it that way.

Make no mistake. This effort is all about enriching 25 well-paid women. It's not about advancing the women's game or equity or anything like that.

 

It's competitive athletics and therefore everything you just said is nonsense.

 

Of course he/she is.

It's what they've been doing the whole time.

 

Terrible analysis, at that.

The men hosted the Copa America. It wouldn't have generated a cent for the USSF if not for the men participating and hosting.

The advocates for the women have to lie to make this all come right for them. They have no other choice.

 

Your arguments are literally the worst.

 

It most definitely is not a stupid point.

 

Yep.

Making it up as they go.

 

Yeah, you.

 

It’s not just soccer. It’s true in all team sports. Women ARE competitive in many individual sports: tennis, gymnastics, swimming, ice skating, track.

I wonder why that is. I’ll bet there’s a Ph.D. Dissertation, at least, out there about it.

 

I don't think OfficeSpace has enough consecutive posts.

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Edit: damn you, Dave!

 

If it’s two different sports, how can they play against each other? What would happen if the Raptors played the Patriots?

You are making literally no sense here. It’s an autogolazo.

 

OK, as you obviously are missing the point, I'll give you another example.

The US home friendly against Mexico in September had 41,000 fans in attendance. The US home friendly against Paraguay earlier that year had 10,000. Does that mean the players on the Mexico friendly roster automatically deserve vastly more money than the players on the Paraguay roster? The Paraguay roster were a much "less lucrative group" after all.

Obviously not. Regardless of which group "brought in more revenue" on the day, it wouldn't make sense to compensate one group of US players more than another based on the fact that the Mexican national team is more of a draw than the Paraguayan national team (regardless of whatever you think "basic economic theory" says).

 

Yes, I wouldn't be surprised at all if there was a clause in the relevant contracts that give each federation a percentage of gate receipts.

 

When their “facts” are repeatedly refuted, that’s suspicious. And that includes your cherry picked nonsense

 

So, you'd be in favor of paying the YNT's then, right? The U13 and U14 teams deserve just as much money, because "it wouldn't make sense to compensate one group of US players more than another".

You've set up a false dichotomy. A sales team gets to set their salaries and bonuses based on how much business they bring in. If you bring in a lot of business, you probably get to set a nice salary and commission. You bring in less? You get less.

Most of the USSF employees bring in nothing. A few people show up to the U20 MNT WC games. Otherwise, nobody shows up to any of the other YNT games.

 

Actually, that’s exactly what I’m doing. Looking at revenues generated BY BOTH TEAMS AND NOT OTHER TEAMS over a four year period. None of this “but that wasn’t 2016!” Business and none of this nonsense of pretending people tune in to watch Argentina to see Gyasi Zardes. The lawsuit covers a specific period of time, so that’s the relevant period of time. And as guarantee you USSF and Winston Strawn have a MUCH better idea of the actual facts than pointing to a single game in 2016 blah blah blah.

And none of this laughable “different sports” nonsense. Same rules, same formats same revenue streams, same activities required of employees. You couldn’t get more comparable.