US Team Security

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by SoccerScout, Oct 9, 2004.

  1. SoccerScout

    SoccerScout Member

    Jan 3, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Club:
    Internacional Porto Alegre
    Does the US team receive extra tight security due to current World Anti-American problems? I would hope so because while at home these guys practically go unoticed in foreign lands they could have targets on them. Especially with high profile soccer.

    Hypothetical:

    With all the Iraq kidnapping/Beheadings in which the governments don't negotiate with the terrorrists, if the US team or part of it was kidnapped by terrorists would the Government continue the poilicy, even though they are out representing the American Flag? Its a scary thought and I hope they are well guarded when overseas.
     
  2. ColomboZelaschi

    ColomboZelaschi New Member

    Aug 7, 2004
    Devil's Backbone
    Mister Scout, you raise an important issue. For your information, the team not only travels with federal American agencies, they are greeted like no other team in the world by the host nation's military. So the answer to your question is yes they are tended by the best.

    However, what does this say about our country? These young men and women travel the world representing the US respectfully and proundly in the face of all the anti-Americanism and danger in the world and what do they get at home? At home they are ignored or maligned largely by the media (especially the print media), the "joe six-pack" sports fan xenophobically dismisses them (the foreign game bla, bla, bla) and the culture at large has no clue how gallantly and humbly our men and women play the world's game to the world's suprise.

    It will probably go on this way indefinitly, and so be it. It is just one of the off the pitch reasons I have so much respect for the players, regardless of their abilities to defend, score or possess.

    By the way, most advances in US soccer have been interupted by wars going back to the first World War, but I will leave that for another thread.
     
  3. fischerw

    fischerw Member+

    Sep 15, 2004
    Joplin, MO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Very well said. I think I'm at my most patriotic while watching the Nats, bleeding red white and blue, etc. It made me pissed back in 2001 when the game we qualified in was pre-empted by bombing Afghanistan. It was our first international competition in any sport since 9-11, and it was totally ignored. And what you say about the print media could not be truer-- I've said it before: Not only do these sportswriters and tv personalities not like soccer, they are threatened by it, and instead of ignoring it, they wage an offensive campaign against it, terrified by the thought that somewhere in this country someone could be kicking a soccerball. Here's a classic Tony Kornheiser quote, "In America, we play with our hands." Thanks a lot, Tony. It's even more infuriating when I'm watching the Nats in my college dorm lounge and people go, "Oh, the US soccer team, no doubt they'll get their asses kicked!" And I say, "why do you say that? Mind if I let you know that our team is actually very good, probably the best in our region, and we're ranked #11 worldwide?" At least I can educate the philistines to a certain extent in these situations.

    ok, that was a rant, but one I hadn't done in a while.

    Bill
     
  4. K.P.

    K.P. Member

    Mar 18, 2001
    Philly
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What do you mean they "travel with federal American agencies"? What agency? I find this comment to be extremely suspect. With the possible exception of the World Cup, I am guessing they fly without any U.S. government protection.
     
  5. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    The number one rule about Fight Club is that you don't talk about Fight Club.
     
  6. Dead Fingers

    Dead Fingers Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 22, 2004
    St. Paul, Minnesota
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    What was the second?

    Mr "Midlle Child of History"
     
  7. rkeane15

    rkeane15 New Member

    Jan 25, 2004
    Portland, OR
    on ussoccer.com they have a video of the team traveling to el salvador. i dont know of any protection with the planes, but when they were on the bus they showed three of four motorcycles escorting their bus. on each bike they had a driver and someone turned around backwards with guns. i guess thats decent protection.
     
  8. THOMA GOL

    THOMA GOL BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 16, 1999
    Frontier
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Popeye and the Coasties patrolled the waterways....allegedly........... :D
     
  9. SABuffalo786

    SABuffalo786 New Member

    May 18, 2002
    Buffalo, New York
    They got pretty good security during the Confed Cup, and WC 2002 security was air friggin tight. The players actually admitted to being freaked out by the sight of so many assault rifle toting S. Korean soldiers around them.
     
  10. Beadling Boy

    Beadling Boy Member

    Mar 11, 2000
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    USMNT security overseas is always very tight. They travel with some U.S. federal agents, but most security is provided by the host country.

    Here's a picture of Brushes Sand enjoying the most recent USMNT - El Salvador match while several armed soldiers patrol behind him: http://galeria.elsalvador.com/galeria_v2/galeria.asp?p=7&IDgaleria=115

    One can also scroll to the other pictures for some good game action photos and even a picture of some U.S. fans waving the "Red, White and Blue" during the game.
     
  11. K.P.

    K.P. Member

    Mar 18, 2001
    Philly
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What federal agency do they travel with?
     
  12. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I could tell you but then I'd have to kill you.
     
  13. shinpath

    shinpath Member

    Feb 14, 2003
    Shanghai, PR China
    Club:
    --other--
    Team is safe. Supporters are another question. Germany 2006? Probably OK, check back in 2010 in South Africa.
     
  14. SABuffalo786

    SABuffalo786 New Member

    May 18, 2002
    Buffalo, New York
    In France in 2003, I hear Sam's Army had a chopper following them to and from the trains.
     
  15. Sine Pari

    Sine Pari Member

    Oct 10, 2000
    NUNYA, BIZ

    Or as it's also known - OPSEC

    :)
     
  16. JoeSoccerFan

    JoeSoccerFan Member+

    Aug 11, 2000
    Life is like a box of chocolates...
     
  17. ColomboZelaschi

    ColomboZelaschi New Member

    Aug 7, 2004
    Devil's Backbone
    Gentlemen, this is not an Oliver Stone movie. There was a security detail in El Salvador much like the one described here. Please pay attention to the point, which is they heroism is totally ignored.

    Heavy security for Americans' arrival
    UNION-TRIBUNE NEWS SERVICES
    648 words
    25 May 2002
    The San Diego Union-Tribune
    1,2,6,7
    D-5
    English
    (Copyright 2002)
    Hardly noticed at home, the U.S. soccer team was surrounded by a massive security detail befitting a head of state when it arrived yesterday in Seoul, South Korea, for the World Cup.
    When they left New York's Kennedy International on Thursday, U.S. players were treated like any other American tourists, anonymous enough to be largely ignored.
    When they arrived at Incheon International Airport after a 14 1/ 2 -hour Korean Air flight, they were greeted by the largest police and military detail placed on any of the 32 teams, with agents of the CIA and U.S. State Department keeping tabs, too.
    "You really don't pay much attention to it," said forward Clint Mathis. "It's nice to know you're looked after and taken care of."
    About 500 police formed a corridor for players as they left customs. Milling about in red and green berets were SWAT team commandos with wraparound sunglasses, automatic weapons slung from their shoulders and hands on pistols.
    "We've been here before and we anticipated great security," said U.S. coach Bruce Arena. "Perhaps not to this degree, but we're not complaining. The Koreans do an outstanding job with regard to security for the U.S. team."
     
  18. Dead Fingers

    Dead Fingers Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 22, 2004
    St. Paul, Minnesota
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Probably some of the same "people" who helped out in the olympics?
     
  19. Sine Pari

    Sine Pari Member

    Oct 10, 2000
    NUNYA, BIZ
    Why speculate ?

    If they want you to know they'll tell you

    There are reasons that Rob Stone doesn't discuss this stuff on air and it's not in the papers and it's certainly not here on BigSoccer

    It's OPSEC - Operational Security - meaning you don't need to know

    Sorry to be harsh
     
  20. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I was trying to be subtle.
     
  21. GRUNT

    GRUNT Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Lake Oswego, OR
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Because he's too busy doing PBP, provoking thought and reaction in all of us?
     
  22. fischerw

    fischerw Member+

    Sep 15, 2004
    Joplin, MO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I bet the government hires Blackwater USA. God, I hope not.
     
  23. ColomboZelaschi

    ColomboZelaschi New Member

    Aug 7, 2004
    Devil's Backbone
    Who cares what apparatus of secruity forces travel with the team? The original question has been answered. It is the State Department and CIA. The concern of Mister Scout is: are they OK? Yes they are. The deeper issue to me is not who holds the guns, but who remains quiet. Why does a country ignore a team who represents them so well? Why does this team's profile rise to the level of need of this security, but garners no popular support? The subsequent point made about the media is the right one I believe. We are fed ignorance by those that have voices in the national media. Those who fail to realize that all "American" sports are derivitives of English/Classic Latin sports. It is dumb at best xenophobic at worst the way they begrudge the world's game. I would hope in a forum like this, the participants in these threads would take the time to educate their local editors through email and their own editorials of the need/demand of accurate and thorough coverage of a national treasure known as the "Nats."
    Peace! Out!
     
  24. Sine Pari

    Sine Pari Member

    Oct 10, 2000
    NUNYA, BIZ

    The CIA does NOT protect the Nats

    Can someone close this as it's really a terrible idea to discuss security issues in an open source forum
     

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