Unpopular USMNT or US Soccer Opinions

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by GiallorossiYank, Feb 9, 2017.

  1. GiallorossiYank

    GiallorossiYank Member+

    Jan 20, 2011
    NJ/Roma/Napoli
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've seen this on other forums for fans to talk about... what are some of your unpopular USMNT opinions?

    I'd say mine is Sunil Gulati extremely under appreciated around these boards
     
  2. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    I've got a lot.

    1. Matt Besler has performed better than any NT player the last two cycles.
    2. Jones needs to go. Completely past it.
    3. Its a joke that Rimando's in contention for a spot. Klinsmann type error. Rimando's a below average MLS keeper.
    4. Birnbaum isn't one of our 8 best CB's.
    5. Hamid needs to start at keeper in March, regardless of how many NT starts he has. He's the best keeper we have.
    6. Zardes and Bedoya both don't deserve to be in our best 23.
    7. Chandler's NT struggles are no worse than Brooks and Johnson's.
    8. Agudelo is our best striker.
    9. Erik Palmer-Brown needs to be considered to fill the #6 spot in March, if Cameron isn't fit.
    10. The only position where Cameron should be first choice is #6. He's bad at CB and bad at RB.
    11. Williams and Morales are fringe players, and won't be more than that for the entirety of their footballing careers.
    12. Hyndman and Zelalem will not combine for 10 caps, so we can stop talking about the two of them.
    13. Altidore should not start. Too ineffective at anything other than poaching to start.
    14. Current Arena is the second worst coach we've had since Sampson, first being Klinsmann.
    15. Feilhaber was underrated by Klinsmann, but he's overrated by big soccer.
    16. Kljestan doesn't play well enough to play for the NT.
    17. Nagbe helps, but he's not as good as some think.
    18. For a previously uncapped player prior to January, I can't defend Villafana getting minutes. New players gotta earn minutes.
    19. Bradley's a bottler, but the mistake to make him captain was already made. Pair him with Cameron, and hope he's not terrible.
    20. We'll qualify 3rd out of CONCACAF, and then get finish last place in an easy WC group.
     
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  3. Eighteen Alpha

    Eighteen Alpha Member+

    Aug 17, 2016
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    I just want to save this one for posterity.
     
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  4. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Its all good, there's a reason its "unpopular opinions" not "unpopular facts."

    My opinions on them are long documented, and I think my opinions are holding up pretty good, although I wish my opinions on them weren't holding up.
     
  5. Eighteen Alpha

    Eighteen Alpha Member+

    Aug 17, 2016
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    Two 20 year olds. Not much of a track record wouldn't you say?
     
  6. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    There's always time for everyone. I'm not betting on it for either of them though.
     
  7. Eighteen Alpha

    Eighteen Alpha Member+

    Aug 17, 2016
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    That's cool. Here is my unpopular opinion:

    Hyndman will be Captain of the USMNT.
     
  8. soccersubjectively

    soccersubjectively BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 17, 2012
    Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My unpopular opinion is that Hyndman will have more than 10 caps but won't be the captain for the USMNT.
     
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  9. Mahtzo1

    Mahtzo1 Member+

    Jan 15, 2007
    So Cal
    Ok, I'll try one. I am fine with "Losing" Rossi. If he didn't want to play for us, than I don't want him either. Same with Subotic. I don't have anything against either but only want players on the team that want to play for us.
     
  10. Lookingforleftbacks

    Galaxy
    United States
    Dec 17, 2016
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1. Michael Bradley is the best 6 in the USMNT pool and he's underrated by the US fan base.

    Everyone sees him complete a couple nice passes vs Serbia and praises how lucky we are to have him. Never mind the 3 times he gave the ball away because he has a poor first touch or the 4 times he made awful passes. If Bradley played as bad as he does there would be petitions and pitch forks.

    3. Omar Gonzalez. Don't know if this is unpopular or not but I never want to see him suit up for the NT again. And it sucks cuz I like him. I just don't think he's good enough.

    4. Assuming Brooks is 1, and Cameron is 2, we have no 3rd best CB. At least not yet. Everyone we've tried (Besler, Birnbaum, Orozco, etc) is good for 1-3 horrible mistakes per game that should lead to goals. I thought Zimmerman looked good but it's tough to give too much praise to him for a good game against lowly Jamaica.

    5. Zusi wasn't that bad. He wasn't great, but neither are the other options. I'd rather have him over Chandler any day of the week.

    6. McCarty wasn't as great as everyone wishes he was. His pass completion % was on par with Bradley most games and McCarty often attempts safer passes. He also doesn't read the game as well defensively.

    7. We shouldn't start the same lineup every game. If we were Argentina or Germany, maybe. But we aren't and we don't have 11 of the best players in the world. So we should play matchups and play speed when we need speed and defense when we need defense
     
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  11. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    That's a popular one.
     
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  12. olephill2

    olephill2 Member+

    Oct 6, 2006
    Oregon
    Club:
    Watford FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here's mine:

    The most important and consequential goal scored by the USA at the 2010 FIFA World Cup was Landon Donovan's early 2nd half strike against Slovenia:
     
  13. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    All I can say is, (1) this was very enlightening, and (2) I am glad you are not our coach.
     
  14. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    Subotic did. WrongAgain was the problem here.

    Rossi...I agree. He never had the interest and he has paid the price. His Italy career<<<<<<<<<<what his US career could have been.
     
  15. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Subotic has stated Rongen alienated him from the team.
     
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  16. Three and Three

    Sep 13, 2015
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    And the Italians found him too American.

    My unpopular opinion is that the USSF (the OP did put US Soccer on the table, after all) should "urge" MLS to phase out the teams in Canada, thus providing a strong core around which a league may be formed there and permitting three more cities in the States United to enjoy first division footy.
     
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  17. Eighteen Alpha

    Eighteen Alpha Member+

    Aug 17, 2016
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    #17 Eighteen Alpha, Feb 10, 2017
    Last edited: Feb 10, 2017
    JK had to go and probably after the Gold Cup. But on balance he was good for our program and was beloved by many players, especially youth.

    Agreed.

    Those who believe MLS is "roughly comparable" to X first division league are blowing rainbows out of their arses. It is getting better but is tripping over its own feet with self imposed rules. Until we see a MLS team in the Club World Cup on a regular basis, it will never get any respect abroad.
     
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  18. HScoach13

    HScoach13 Member

    Nov 30, 2016
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Here is mine. With the right support and coaching Jozy can excell in a solo striker role.
     
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  19. Eighteen Alpha

    Eighteen Alpha Member+

    Aug 17, 2016
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    I wish he believed that.
     
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  20. Eighteen Alpha

    Eighteen Alpha Member+

    Aug 17, 2016
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    :confused: To be fair, you've never claimed, to my knowledge, to be consistent. ;)
     
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  21. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Your boss was coach, and it was leading us down a path where we wouldn't qualify for the WC. Maybe a fresh approach can help?
     
  22. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    No, Hamid has earned the starting spot for the NT. Thats the point. He's the best GK in MLS, Villafana can't even get off the Santos bench, and sometimes was even playing for the reserves. Surely you can't think those are the same situation?
     
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  23. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    39 caps for Besler, you'd think he's made these "1-3" horrible mistakes per game? Where are they? Any evidence of them?
     
  24. Lookingforleftbacks

    Galaxy
    United States
    Dec 17, 2016
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    First highlight.



    Ball watching at 11:47



    Not every one leads to a goal so they don't make the highlights but that's the type of stuff I'm talking about.

    Yes he has 39 caps, but do we really have a deep CB pool to choose from? Even with the 1-3 mistakes I'd still say he's one of the top 4 CBs we have. But you can't ignore those 1-3 mistakes if a better option comes along
     
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  25. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That is unpopular. Now.... is it true?..;)
     

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