That’s not America hatred dude. I don’t know who traumatized you but I don’t see anything wrong with that comment. Just ignore him if it bothers you.
Who even cared about this tournament? I see people on twitter comparing it to missing out on Olympics in 2008 and that’s ridiculous. We just got 2nd in Toulon, this isn’t that big a deal IMO.
Mexico got 2nd in Toulon based on talent. And even then the coach almost blew it by playing the same lineup every game and then tiring them out (Jona Gonzalez missed the final because of a sobrecarga muscular). Then in the final he also screwed the subs. This might not be the 2008 thing but it's a similsr performance with even the after the fact " I didn't have the players", when it wasn't a problem before it.
What I’m saying is I didn’t even know this tournament existed until they played it, and I’m not alone. To my knowledge the first 2 games weren’t even televised. Not hating on Central America but this is clearly not a high profile tournament. A couple of the dudes will probably consistently play at least Copa MX so I’m glad they got an early exit. Rather see them play with their clubs.
The games weren't televized because of some bullshit that Colombian Tv pulled. The Central American games aren't some unknown shit. Other events are more followed than football but don't like this is the Suwon cup either. People who live in the region know about them.
I understand is a shitty tournement but Mexico should dominate it with it’s eyes closed. The players that went have enough quality to do that.
There was no football at the 2010 tourney. We won gold at the Olympics. We won gold at the 2014 tourney. Then we got eliminated in the first round of Rio.
inconsistency seems to be consistent...yes, there are things that need to be addressed at the sub levels. 1 bad tournament at the pan-american, central-american, whatever-american games doesn't spell Doom for youth soccer in Mexico. but... LET THE OVERREACTING CONTINUE!
The only thing to complain about is wasting several players for this cup This isn’t that big of a thing, better to test out others
We won gold with Luis Fernando Tena, a historic coach in Mexican football. We lost in the 2016 under Potro Gutierrez, who had won a u17 world cup and got another team to the U17 world cup final. Now so far we have China Ruiz, who hasn't done anything and Arteaga, who was a total failure at the last U17 world cup and should've been fired not promoted. With the US improving and the youth (even if people here don't want to believe it), Canada too and the normal tough level from Central America, it's not going to be easy to qualify to the Olympics even more if we're handicapped in the coaching level.
The US will always have the indirect advantage of having more dudes with double nationalities or who qualify for a euro passport. So naturally more of their young dudes are going to find it easier to find clubs over there. Outside of that I don’t really know how to gauge how the US is doing compared to MX. It seems we’re doing fine IMO.
On talent we are good and should be better but not overly superior to the poin that coaching won't matter. It's close enough that it will matter. Hell I saw it live in Costa Rica with the U20. Mexico had the more talented squad but not by much. They beat us and deservedly so because Chima totally got outcoached.
Way late, but this tournament/competition really doesn't matter in my opinion in terms of true measure of team growth. Seemed the big media outlets were trying to get as much juice out of it and fill time more so than actually giving convincing arguments as to why this is such an important competition in terms of measuring team growth. Like it's been pointed out already the Toulon tournament is a better indicator if team is headed in right direction.
Talent wisr maybe, coaching wise no. I think the adversity exposed Chima Ruiz. I think this was a better indicator of his coaching level why he coasted on the talent in Toulon.
Idk The roster the US has been using is virtually a U23, including several 18/19 year olds. They could easily sell him an idea, like the one FMF did for Jona Gonzalez.
Except Jona will actually be a part of the MNT. His Toulon performances showed he has a very good future.
No, I agree. But Alvarez has made the statement about possibly switching to the US several times, all the US fed needs to do is pitch him an idea about being the next phenom and getting first team play.
Mexico should close the deal and bring the kid in for good. Enough of him juggling with options between Mexico and the nads.
Its not like mexico can really do anything. Kid is just a kid, he isnt even a starter on the galaxy yet. Earliest he can be cap tied is gold cup next year, and theres no reason so far to believe he deserves a spot.