Top-Rated Players of the Bundesliga (1963-2010)

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  1. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Bolzplatz
    Since the start of the Bundesliga in 1963, "kicker" magazine has chronicled the events faithfully in a multitude of ways. One of their most prominent features is the weekly rating of individual players' performances after each matchday.

    What they use to evaluate is the German schoolsystem grade rating, where the best performance equals "1" and the worst equals "5.

    On their website, Kicker recently published the average grades per season of all players since 1963. The following is a short overview of the results in four parts: Forwards, midfielders, defenders, goalies.

    PART ONE

    Top-Rated Forwards

    season - avg. grade - best player

    1963-64 1.67 Uwe Seeler
    1964-65 1.79 Uwe Seeler
    1965-66 1.94 Bernd Rupp
    1966-67 2.00 Bernd Rupp, Jupp Heynckes
    1967-68 2.03 Heinz Strehl
    1968-69 2.12 Siegfried Held
    1969-70 2.09 Jürgen Grabowski
    1970-71 2.03 Siegfried Held
    1971-72 2.27 Gerd Müller, Erwin Kremers
    1972-73 2.33 Jürgen Grabowski
    1973-74 2.36 Klaus Fischer
    1974-75 2.38 Allan Simonsen
    1975-76 2.47 Allan Simonsen
    1976-77 2.12 Allan Simonsen
    1977-78 2.24 Kevin Keegan
    1978-79 1.94 Kevin Keegan
    1979-80 2.32 Karl-Heinz Rummenigge
    1980-81 2.24 Karl-Heinz Rummenigge
    1981-82 2.34 Karl-Heinz Rummenigge
    1982-83 2.32 Rudi Völler
    1983-84 2.31 Karl-Heinz Rummenigge
    1984-85 2.71 Pierre Littbarski
    1985-86 2.85 Manfred Burgsmüller
    1986-87 2.50 Uwe Rahn
    1987-88 2.74 Jürgen Klinsmann
    1988-89 3.11 Bum Kun Cha
    1989-90 2.93 Ludwig Kögl
    1990-91 2.89 Stefan Kuntz
    1991-92 2.73 Sergio Zarate
    1992-93 2.88 Anthony Yeboah
    1993-94 2.71 Anthony Yeboah
    1994-95 2.87 Stéphane Chapuisat
    1995-96 3.00 Fredi Bobic
    1996-97 3.03 Paulo Sergio
    1997-98 2.60 Olaf Marschall
    1998-99 2.89 Carsten Jancker
    1999-00 3.06 Giovane Elber
    2000-01 3.12 Emile Mpenza
    2001-02 3.25 Ewerthon
    2002-03 3.36 Kevin Kuranyi
    2003-04 3.06 Lukas Podolski
    2004-05 3.11 Miroslav Klose
    2005-06 2.38 Miroslav Klose
    2006-07 2.94 Mohamed Zidan
    2007-08 3.13 Luca Toni
    2008-09 2.53 Vehad Ibisevic
    2009-10 2.80 Stefan Kessling


    TOP FIVE


    1963-64

    1.67 Uwe Seeler
    2.04 Helmut Faeder
    2.16 Friedhelm Konietzka
    2.17 Heinz Hornig
    2.19 Gert Dörfel

    1964-65

    1.79 Uwe Seeler
    1.84 Wilhelm Wrenger
    2.03 Udo Nix
    2.10 Heinz Strehl
    2.10 Lothar Ulsass

    1965-66

    1.94 Bernd Rupp
    2.13 Siegfried Held
    2.13 Reinhard Libuda
    2.19 Heinz Hornig
    2.26 Dieter Brenninger

    1966-67

    2.00 Jupp Heynckes
    2.00 Bernd Rupp
    2.03 Klaus Zaczyk
    2.03 Lothar Ulsass
    2.06 Erich Maass

    1967-68

    2.03 Heinz Strehl
    2.06 Peter Meyer
    2.15 Zvezdan Cebinac
    2.15 Siegfried Held
    2.21 Franz Brungs

    1968-69

    2.12 Siegfried Held
    2.27 Josip Skoblar
    2.33 Gerd Müller
    2.33 Hans Siemensmeyer
    2.35 Werner Görts

    1969-70

    2.09 Jürgen Grabowski
    2.33 Gerd Müller
    2.33 Uwe Seeler
    2.39 Franz Krauthausen
    2.39 Erich Maas

    1970-71

    2.03 Siegfried Held
    2.16 Lothar Ulsass
    2.26 Jürgen Grabowski
    2.41 Willi Lippens
    2.47 Dietmar Erler
    2.47 Ferdinand Keller

    1971-72

    2.27 Erwin Kremers
    2.27 Gerd Müller
    2.38 Bernd Hölzenbein
    2.39 Jupp Heynckes
    2.42 Jürgen Grabowski

    1972-73

    2.33 Jürgen Grabowski
    2.41 Reiner Geye
    2.41 Klaus Wunder
    2.47 Erwin Kremers
    2.47 Gerd Müller

    1973-74

    2.36 Klaus Fischer
    2.45 Klaus Wunder
    2.50 Willi Lippens
    2.50 Wolfgang Seel
    2.52 Bernd Hölzenbein

    1974-75

    2.38 Allan Simonsen
    2.40 Josef Pirrung
    2.41 Willi Lippens
    2.42 Siegfried Held
    2.44 Wolfgang Seel


    1975-76

    2.47 Allan Simonsen
    2.48 Henning Jensen
    2.50 Werner Görts
    2.59 Klaus Fischer
    2.59 Bernd Hölzenbein
    2.59 Reiner Geye

    1976-77

    2.12 Allan Simonsen
    2.17 Bernd Hölzenbein
    2.23 Danilo Popivoda
    2.52 Lorenz Horr
    2.52 Gerd Müller

    1977-78

    2.24 Kevin Keegan
    2.42 Hans-Joachim Abel
    2.43 Allan Simonsen
    2.62 Karl-Heinz Rummenigge
    2.64 Georg Volkert

    1978-79

    1.94 Kevin Keegan
    2.61 Klaus Allofs
    2.61 Georg Volkert
    2.62 Karl-Heinz Rummenigge
    2.68 Klaus Fischer

    1979-80

    2.32 Karl-Heinz Rummenigge
    2.42 Kevin Keegan
    2.45 Bum Kun Cha
    2.67 Reiner Geye
    2.74 Hans-Joachim Abel

    1980-81

    2.24 Karl-Heinz Rummenigge
    2.79 Manfred Burgsmüller
    2.81 Bernd Hölzenbein
    2.83 Georg Volkert
    2.85 Bum Kun Cha

    1981-82

    2.34 Karl-Heinz Rummenigge
    2.39 Pierre Littbarski
    2.53 Rüdiger Wenzel
    2.59 Lars Bastrup
    2.64 Ronald Borchers

    1982-83

    2.32 Rudi Völler
    2.32 Karl-Heinz Rummenigge
    2.52 Bum Kun Cha
    2.63 Jürgen Milewski
    2.88 Karl Allgöwer

    1983-84

    2.31 Karl-Heinz Rummenigge
    2.55 Rudi Völler
    2.58 Klaus Allofs
    2.79 Christian Schreier
    2.84 Frank Mill

    1984-85

    2.71 Pierre Littbarski
    2.81 Klaus Allofs
    2.82 Klaus Fischer
    2.96 Ludwig Kögl
    2.97 Karl Allgöwer

    1985-86

    2.85 Manfred Burgsmüller
    2.85 Herbert Waas
    3.00 Christian Schreier
    3.13 Thomas Allofs
    3.15 Jürgen Wegmann

    1986-87

    2.50 Uwe Rahn
    2.72 Miroslav Okonski
    2.74 Frank Mill
    2.88 Klaus Allofs
    3.03 Wlodzimierz Smolarek

    1987-88

    2.74 Jürgen Klinsmann
    2.90 Frank Mill
    3.18 Mark Hughes
    3.21 Bum Kun Cha
    3.24 Siegfried Reich

    1988-89

    3.11 Bum Kun Cha
    3.13 Jürgen Klinsmann
    3.19 Frank Mill
    3.24 Jan Furtok
    3.36 Thomas Allofs

    1989-90

    2.93 Ludwig Kögl
    3.15 Josef Nehl
    3.32 Brian Laudrup
    3.39 Ralf Sturm
    3.41 Jörn Ande

    1990-91

    2.89 Stefan Kuntz
    2.90 Bruno Labbadia
    3.06 Thomas Allofs
    3.17 Klaus Allofs
    3.17 Jan Furtok

    1991-92

    2.73 Sergio Zarate
    2.81 Stéphane Chapuisat
    2.91 Anthony Yeboah
    3.00 Andreas Thom
    3.09 Ulf Kirsten

    1992-93

    2.88 Anthony Yeboah
    3.07 Sergey Kiriakov
    3.09 Axel Kruse
    3.12 Martin Dahlin
    3.16 Ulf Kirsten

    1993-94

    2.71 Anthony Yeboah
    3.07 Anton Polster
    3.13 Stéphane Chapuisat
    3.18 Stefan Kuntz
    3.20 Martin Dahlin

    1994-95

    2.87 Stéphane Chapuisat
    3.05 Rudi Völler
    3.12 Uwe Spies
    3.13 Olaf Marschall
    3.24 Peter Peschel

    1995-96

    3.00 Fredi Bobic
    3.05 Rudi Völler
    3.07 Harry Decheiver
    3.13 Martin Dahlin
    3.23 Giovane Elber

    1996-97

    3.03 Paulo Sergio
    3.06 Fredi Bobic
    3.07 Ulf Kirsten
    3.17 Giuseppe Reina
    31.8 Ruggiero Rizzitelli


    1997-98

    2.60 Olaf Marschall
    2.92 Ulf Kirsten
    3.16 Bachirou Salou
    3.26 Carsten Jancker
    3.31 Stefan Kuntz

    1998-99

    2.89 Carsten Jancker
    2.90 Giovane Elber
    3.23 Olaf Marschall
    3.31 Eyjolfur Sverisson
    3.32 Ulf Kirsten

    1999-2000

    3.06 Giovane Elber
    3.25 Paulo Sergio
    3.28 Ulf Kirsten
    3.31 Giuseppe Reina
    3.33 Anthony Yeboah

    2000-01

    3.12 Emile Mpenza
    3.14 Ebbe Sand
    3.32 Claudio Pizarro
    3.36 Alexander Iashvili
    3.40 Markus Kurth

    2001-02

    3.25 Ewerthon
    3.26 Miroslav Klose
    3.30 Giovane Elber
    3.38 Vratislav Lokvenc
    3.43 Ebbe Sand

    2002-03

    3.36 Kevin Kuranyi
    3.38 Victor Agali
    3.39 Claudio Pizarro
    3.41 Fredi Bobic
    3.44 Giovane Elber

    2003-04

    3.06 Lukas Podolski
    3.11 Dimitar Berbatov
    3.18 Claudio Pizarro
    3.19 Ailton
    3.21 Ivan Klasnic

    2004-05

    3.11 Miroslav Klose
    3.16 Gerald Asamoah
    3.29 Claudio Pizarro
    3.29 Dimitar Berbatov
    3.31 Ebbe Sand

    2005-06

    2.38 Miroslav Klose
    3.25 Ivan Klasnic
    3.25 Ivan Saenko
    3.29 Nelson Valdez
    3.29 Dimitar Berbatov

    2006-07

    2.94 Mohamed Zidan
    2.98 Mario Gomez
    3.06 Theofanis Gekas
    3.31 Kevin Kuranyi
    3.34 Cacau

    2007-08

    3.13 Luca Toni
    3.24 Marko Pantelic
    3.24 Stefan Kiessling
    3.28 Mario Gomez
    3.36 Cacau

    2008-09

    2.53 Vedad Ibisevic
    2.76 Grafite
    2.88 Edin Dzeko
    3.11 Mario Gomez
    3.12 Claudio Pizarro

    2009-10

    2.80 Stefan Kiessling
    3.03 Edin Dzeko
    3.06 Jefferson Farfan
    3.16 Kevin Kuranyi
    3.17 Claudio Pizarro
     
  2. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    6, actually.
     
  3. Mr_Renoog

    Mr_Renoog Member

    Aug 12, 2010
    London, UK
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    How are the performances rated, is it subjective or based on statistics?

    I know Kicker has a record of all goalscorers going back to the 60s, and all goals and assists since 1988 which is quite useful. Klose in particular stands out as being prolific in both aspects.
     
  4. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Bolzplatz
    Correct.

    Kicker only goes to '5' though if I remember correctly. I wanted to keep the introduction simple.

    Entirely subjective in the 1960s, 70s and most of the 1980s, as special statistics weren't recorded in those days.

    I am not sure whether Kicker incorporates statistics in their grades these days or not. However statistics can be misleading, like a defender always playing the ball backwards safely getting a 100% completed passes stat.
     
  5. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Bolzplatz
    PART TWO

    Top-Rated Midfielders

    season - avg. grade - best player

    1963-64 1.50 Werner Krämer
    1964-65 1.78 Werner Krämer
    1965-66 1.76 Zeljko Perusic
    1966-67 1.97 Wolfgang Overath
    1967-68 1.74 Günter Netzer
    1968-69 1.74 Günter Netzer
    1969-70 1.90 Günter Netzer
    1970-71 1.94 Günter Netzer
    1971-72 1.93 Günter Netzer
    1972-73 2.29 Herbert Wimmer
    1973-74 2.06 Jürgen Grabowski
    1974-75 1.97 Jürgen Grabowski
    1975-76 2.32 Jürgen Grabowski
    1976-77 2.12 Rainer Bonhof
    1977-78 2.23 Paul Breitner
    1978-79 2.36 Paul Breitner, Branko Oblak, Jürgen Groh
    1979-80 1.87 Paul Breitner
    1980-81 2.27 Paul Breitner
    1981-82 2.25 Felix Magath
    1982-83 2.18 Lothar Matthäus
    1983-84 2.48 Asgeir Sigurvinsson
    1984-85 2.46 Sören Lerby
    1985-86 2.27 Norbert Meier
    1986-87 2.56 Wolfram Wuttke
    1987-88 2.58 Thomas Hässler
    1988-89 2.59 Thomas von Heesen
    1989-90 2.62 Pierre Littbarski
    1990-91 2.48 Ralf Falkenmayer
    1991-92 2.48 Uwe Bein
    1992-93 2.56 Uwe Bein
    1993-94 2.78 Rodolfo Cardoso
    1994-95 2.54 Pjotr Nowak
    1995-96 2.67 Andreas Möller
    1996-97 2.52 Dariusz Wosz
    1997-98 2.79 Andreas Buck
    1998-99 2.83 Jens Jeremies
    1999-00 2.64 Emerson
    2000-01 2.95 Sergej Barbarez
    2001-02 2.68 Torsten Frings
    2002-03 2.96 Michael Ballack
    2003-04 2.76 Fabian Ernst
    2004-05 2.79 Fabian Ernst
    2005-06 2.91 Torsten Frings
    2006-07 2.74 Torsten Frings
    2007-08 2.54 Franck Ribéry
    2008-09 2.74 Franck Ribéry
    2009-10 2.48 Arjen Robben



    1963-64

    1.50 Werner Krämer
    1.79 Gustav Witlatschil
    1.80 Klaus Gerwien
    1.90 Hans-Jürgen Neumann
    1.93 Hans Sturm

    1964-65

    1.78 Werner Krämer
    1.84 Hans-Jürgen Neumann
    2.08 Gustav Witlatschil
    2.10 Uwe Klimaschewski
    2.11 Achim Melcher
    2.11 Ludwig Nolden

    1965-66

    1.76 Zeljko Perusic
    1.81 Günter Netzer
    1.86 Werner Krämer
    2.00 Hans Sturm
    2.06 Dieter Kurrat

    1966-67

    1.97 Wolfgang Overath
    2.00 Günter Netzer
    2.00 Hans Küppers
    2.00 Gerhard Neuser
    2.03 Zeljko Perusic

    1967-68

    1.74 Günter Netzer
    2.07 Wolfgang Overath
    2.10 Dieter Kurrat
    2.12 Zeljko Perusic
    2.12 Bo Larsson

    1968-69

    1.74 Günter Netzer
    1.90 Zeljko Perusic
    2.12 Klaus Zaczyk
    2.15 Jürgen Friedrich
    2.21 Herbert Wimmer

    1969-70

    1.90 Günter Netzer
    2.03 Wolfgang Overath
    2.23 Klaus Zaczyk
    2.26 Wolfgang Gayer
    2.27 Franz Roth

    1970-71

    1.94 Günter Netzer
    2.00 Jürgen Friedrich
    2.32 Arnold Schütz
    2.35 Gilbert Gress
    2.38 Wolfgang Gayer

    1971-72

    1.93 Günter Netzer
    2.23 Herbert Lütkebohmert
    2.24 Uli Hoeness
    2.31 Heinz Flohe
    2.33 Jürgen Friedrich

    1972-73

    2.29 Herbert Wimmer
    2.40 Heinz Flohe
    2.47 Jürgen Friedrich
    2.47 Uli Hoeness
    2.47 Bernd Gersdorff
    2.47 Gerd Zewe

    1973-74

    2.06 Jürgen Grabowski
    2.22 Rainer Bonhof
    2.42 Wolfgang Overath
    2.42 Herbert Wimmer
    2.44 Uli Hoeness

    1974-75

    1.97 Jürgen Grabowski
    2.14 Herbert Wimmer
    2.31 Erich Beer
    2.32 Rainer Bonhof
    2.42 Karl-Heinz Kamp

    1975-76

    2.32 Jürgen Grabowski
    2.35 Karlheinz Handschuh
    2.35 Johannes Riedl
    2.38 Herbert Wimmer
    2.40 Rainer Bonhof

    1976-77

    2.12 Rainer Bonhof
    2.26 Franz-Josef Tenhagen
    2.32 Jürgen Grabowski
    2.34 Heinz Flohe
    2.41 Josef Hickersberger

    1977-78

    2.23 Paul Breitner
    2.27 Hans Müller
    2.29 Jürgen Grabowski
    2.30 Rainer Bonhof
    2.43 Alfred Kohlhäufl

    1978-79

    2.36 Jürgen Groh
    2.36 Branko Oblak
    2.36 Paul Breitner
    2.38 Wolfgang Pohl
    2.42 Hans Müller

    1979-80

    1.87 Paul Breitner
    2.35 Anthony Woodcock
    2.42 Jürgen Groh
    2.48 Jürgen Grabowski
    2.59 Hans Müller

    1980-81

    2.27 Paul Breitner
    2.48 Felix Magath
    2.52 Norbert Eilenfeldt
    2.56 Hans Müller
    2.57 Bernd Nickel

    1981-82

    2.25 Felix Magath
    2.50 Paul Breitner
    2.53 Uwe Bracht
    2.55 Ralf Falkenmayer
    2.55 Stephan Engels

    1982-83

    2.18 Lothar Matthäus
    2.19 Paul Breitner
    2.47 Benno Möhlmann
    2.48 Bernd Nickel
    2.53 Norbert Meier

    1983-84

    2.48 Asgeir Sigurvinsson
    2.56 Lothar Matthäus
    2.58 Norbert Meier
    2.65 Rudi Bommer
    2.67 Peter Lux

    1984-85

    2.46 Sören Lerby
    2.58 Lothar Matthäus
    2.74 Gerhard Bold
    2.85 Olaf Thon
    2.86 Ralf Falkenmayer

    1985-86

    2.27 Norbert Meier
    2.65 Sören Lerby
    2.72 Asgeir Sigurvinsson
    2.73 Karl Allgöwer
    2.88 Thomas Zechel

    1986-87

    2.56 Wolfram Wuttke
    2.70 Olaf Thon
    2.70 Thomas von Heesen
    2.71 Lothar Matthäus
    2.73 Norbert Nachtweih

    1987-88

    2.58 Thomas Hässler
    2.59 Olaf Thon
    2.66 Günter Hermann
    2.69 Miroslav Votava
    2.73 Norbert Meier

    1988-89

    2.59 Thomas von Heesen
    2.72 Andreas Möller
    2.73 Thomas Hässler
    2.75 Uwe Bein
    2.76 Hans Dorfner
    2.76 Peter Knäbel

    1989-90

    2.62 Pierre Littbarski
    2.68 Heinz Gründel
    2.70 Ralf Falkenmayer
    2.71 Thomas Hässler
    2.85 Uwe Bein

    1990-91

    2.48 Ralf Falkenmayer
    2.73 Thomas Doll
    2.77 Matthias Sammer
    2.88 Bjarne Goldbaek
    2.97 Stefan Effenberg

    1991-92

    2.48 Uwe Bein
    2.63 Ralf Falkenmayer
    2.78 Andreas Möller
    2.78 Michael Rummenigge
    2.82 Matthias Sammer

    1992-93

    2.56 Uwe Bein
    2.76 Karlheinz Pflipsen
    2.76 Ralf Weber
    2.84 Gerhard Poschner
    2.75 Andreas Thom

    1993-94

    2.78 Rodolfo Cardoso
    2.81 Karlheinz Pflipsen
    2.83 Christian Hochstätter
    2.90 Jiri Nemec
    3.00 Martin Wagner

    1994-95

    2.54 Pjotr Nowak
    2.72 Dieter Eilts
    2.73 Thomas Hässler
    2.78 Andreas Herzog
    2.85 Bernd Schuster

    1995-96

    2.67 Andreas Möller
    2.74 Thomas Hässler
    2.78 Jens Jeremies
    2.80 Dieter Eilts
    2.89 Stefan Effenberg

    1996-97

    2.52 Dariusz Wosz
    2.60 Krassimir Balakov
    2.64 Horst Heldt
    2.89 Thomas Stickroth
    3.00 Thomas Hässler
    3.00 Andreas Möller

    1997-98

    2.79 Andreas Buck
    2.84 Mehmet Scholl
    2.85 Christian Hochstätter
    2.89 Jens Jeremies
    2.91 Carsten Ramelow

    1998-99

    2.83 Jens Jeremies
    2.94 Carsten Ramelow
    2.98 Stefan Beinlich
    3.02 Dieter Eilts
    3.05 Stefan Effenberg

    1999-2000

    2.64 Emerson
    2.80 Michael Ballack
    2.85 Stefan Effenberg
    2.87 Jens Jeremies
    2.91 Niko Kovac

    2000-01

    2.95 Sergej Barbarez
    3.00 Miroslav Stevic
    3.02 Sebastian Kehl
    3.08 Mehmet Scholl
    3.08 Jiri Nemec

    2001-02

    2.68 Torsten Frings
    2.88 Michael Ballack
    3.10 Ze Roberto
    3.13 Tomas Rosicky
    3.21 Krisztian Lisztes

    2002-03

    2.96 Michael Ballack
    3.16 Fabian Ernst
    3.16 Zvonimir Soldo
    3.23 Tomas Rosicky
    3.25 Jens Jeremies

    2003-04

    2.76 Fabian Ernst
    2.92 Zvonimir Soldo
    3.02 Frank Baumann
    3.17 Johan Micoud
    3.21 Aliaksandr Hleb

    2004-05

    2.79 Fabian Ernst
    2.98 Michael Ballack
    3.05 Lincoln
    3.05 Zvonimir Soldo
    3.14 Marcelinho

    2005-06

    2.91 Torsten Frings
    3.08 Johan Micoud
    3.11 Tim Borowski
    3.18 Jermaine Jones
    3.19 Michael Ballack

    2006-07

    2.74 Torsten Frings
    2.79 Diego
    2.97 Pavel Pardo
    2.98 Bernd Schneider
    3.07 Hawhar Mnari

    2007-08

    2.54 Franck Ribery
    2.91 Ze Roberto
    2.93 Simon Rolfes
    3.00 David Jarolim
    3.02 Mark van Bommel

    2008-09

    2.74 Franck Ribery
    2.98 Mesut Özil
    3.02 Carlos Eduardo
    3.03 Jermaine Jones
    3.05 Renato Augusto

    2009-10

    2.48 Arjen Robben
    2.78 Toni Kroos
    2.95 Marko Marin
    3.00 Sven Bender
    3.00 Torsten Frings
     
  6. comme

    comme Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 21, 2003
    You really are a goldmine of information Greg. More great stuff. Keep it up.
     
  7. Mr_Renoog

    Mr_Renoog Member

    Aug 12, 2010
    London, UK
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Does Misimovic not count as a midfielder? I'd have thought he'd be near the top of the rankings in the last few seasons (certainly 08-09)
     
  8. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Bolzplatz
    I know! ;)

    Too bad the same sort of information is not available for other countries. I wonder are premier sports magazines of other countries totally void of evaluations like Kicker's for the Bundesliga?

    Among midfielders, Misimovic surprisingly ended up 14th in 2008-09 and 10th in 2009-10.
     
  9. comme

    comme Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 21, 2003
    Certainly England has no equivalent, but then England does not really have a serious magazine which deals with the domestic game and there are no sports newspapers in England.

    I think Italy tends to be pretty big on its ratings.
     
  10. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    I'm not sure of Tony Woodcock's exact role at Koln but at Forest he was a second striker. So interestingly for that year, he would also be Kicker's second highest rated forward if considered in that category, just behind Karl-Heinz Rummenigge by 0.03. I guess Koln played a main striker, then Littbarski and Woodcock in support - maybe you have more info Gregoriak? I know that later Klaus Alloffs and Klaus Fischer both joined Koln and played in attack.
     
  11. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Bolzplatz

    Good catch. I checked my Bundesliga facts book regarding the tactical lineups of Köln in the 1979-80 season and found that Woodcock - nominally - started 12 times as a left wing & 8 times as a left midfielder (he debuted for Köln on 8 December '79). Based on that, he should have been in the forwards category.

    Köln's tactical scheme that season looked roughly like this:

    ---Woodcock-----------D.Müller----------Littbarski

    --------Willmer----------------------H.Zimmermann
    -----------------------Schuster

    H.Zimmermann-----Strack-----Cullmann----Konopka

    -----------------------Schumacher


    Woodcock is part of a number of 'hybrid' players that played in various parts of their teams. Jürgen Grabowski is a prime example. Started out as an orthodox winger and ended his career as a midfield playmaker. Uli Hoeness is also hard to pin down - forward or midfielder? Same goes for players like Bernd Cullmann, who switched from sweeper to defensive midfielder regularly.
     
  12. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Thanks for the info. Woodcock played as a left-winger in a 4-4-2 for Forest occasionally in his early years but became a star as the support striker. He won the PFA Young Player of the Year Award in 77/78.

    I used to read magazines like Shoot and Match (weekly football magazines) in the 80's&90's and they gave marks out of 10 for each player in each match but I don't think they ever compiled them into annual averages.
     
  13. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Bolzplatz
    He might have been playing the role of support striker at Köln as well. The lineups in those days only differentiated between defender-midfielder-forward. So you either were a midfielder or a forward. Woodcock's frequent changing roles on the left side at Köln (left midfield/left wing) might indicate that he in fact was used as a support striker there, too.

    Interesting. Kicker only recently published the average marks which I showed here, they never did that back in the day. Kicker put much of their archive online in July actually. Other vintage categories which are now available online are "man of the day", "team of the day", "penalties".
     
  14. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Bolzplatz
    PART THREE

    Top-Rated Defenders

    season - avg. grade - best player

    1963-64 1.70 Walter Schmidt
    1964-65 1.70 Klaus-Dieter Sieloff
    1965-66 1.40 Josef Marx
    1966-67 1.67 Franz Beckenbauer
    1967-68 1.52 Joachim Bäse
    1968-69 1.58 Franz Beckenbauer
    1969-70 1.50 Franz Beckenbauer
    1970-71 1.76 Franz Beckenbauer
    1971-72 1.91 Franz Beckenbauer
    1972-73 1.82 Berti Vogts
    1973-74 1.79 Franz Beckenbauer
    1974-75 1.79 Berti Vogts
    1975-76 1.79 Berti Vogts
    1976-77 1.96 Berti Vogts
    1977-78 2.03 Bernard Dietz
    1978-79 2.15 Dieter Bast
    1979-80 2.00 Hans-Peter Briegel
    1980-81 2.16 Bruno Pezzey
    1981-82 2.18 Rolf Rüssmann
    1982-83 2.09 Dieter Bast
    1983-84 2.07 Matthias Herget
    1984-85 2.48 Matthias Herget
    1985-86 2.32 Thomas Hörster
    1986-87 2.56 Ditmar Jakobs
    1987-88 2.33 Jürgen Kohler
    1988-89 2.50 Rune Bratseth
    1989-90 2.54 Guido Buchwald
    1990-91 2.57 Guido Buchwald
    1991-92 2.53 Manfred Binz
    1992-93 2.83 Rune Bratseth
    1993-94 2.42 Lothar Matthäus
    1994-95 2.17 Matthias Sammer
    1995-96 2.67 Dietmar Beiersdorfer
    1996-97 2.62 Christian Wörns
    1997-98 2.81 Christian Wörns
    1998-99 2.78 Jens Nowotny
    1999-00 2.76 Nico Jan Hoogma
    2000-01 2.98 Jens Nowotny
    2001-02 2.78 Lucio
    2002-03 2.84 Willy Sagnol
    2003-04 2.70 Lucio
    2004-05 2.81 Marcelo Bordon
    2005-06 2.92 Lucio
    2006-07 2.96 Per Mertesacker
    2007-08 2.75 Martin Demichelis
    2008-09 2.88 Philipp Lahm
    2009-10 2.86 Sami Hyypiä



    1963-64

    1.70 Walter Schmidt
    1.73 Josef Marx
    1.90 Heinz Steinmann
    2.03 Joachim Bäse
    2.10 Egon Horst

    1964-65

    1.70 Klaus-Dieter Sieloff
    1.77 Walter Schmidt
    1.87 Wolfgang Weber
    2.00 Horst Saida
    2.04 Willi Schulz

    1965-66

    1.40 Josef Marx
    1.67 Franz Beckenbauer
    1.82 Klaus Fichtel
    1.88 Walter Schmidt
    1.91 Wolfgang Weber
    1.91 Ferdinand Wenauer

    1966-67

    1.67 Franz Beckenbauer
    1.82 Walter Schmidt
    1.84 Wolfgang Weber
    1.85 Josef Marx
    1.92 Ferdinand Wenauer

    1967-68

    1.52 Joachim Bäse
    1.74 Berti Vogts
    1.81 Franz Beckenbauer
    1.85 Klaus Fichtel
    1.85 Ferdinand Wenauer

    1968-69

    1.58 Franz Beckenbauer
    1.65 Berti Vogts
    1.79 Klaus Fichtel
    2.06 Bernd Patzke
    2.06 Hermann Nuber

    1969-70

    1.50 Franz Beckenbauer
    1.82 Berti Vogts
    2.03 Klaus-Dieter Sieloff
    2.18 Uwe Witt
    2.19 Klaus Fichtel
    2.19 Horst-Dieter Höttges

    1970-71

    1.76 Franz Beckenbauer
    1.91 Berti Vogts
    1.96 Klaus Fichtel
    2.06 Klaus-Dieter Sieloff
    2.13 Uwe Witt

    1971-72

    1.91 Franz Beckenbauer
    2.12 Klaus Fichtel
    2.16 Klaus-Dieter Sieloff
    2.17 Rolf Rüssmann
    2.23 Paul Breitner

    1972-73

    1.82 Berti Vogts
    1.88 Franz Beckenbauer
    1.96 Rolf Rüssmann
    2.13 Jupp Kapellmann
    2.18 Bernd Cullmann

    1973-74

    1.79 Franz Beckenbauer
    2.15 Bernard Dietz
    2.19 Berti Vogts
    2.24 Paul Breitner
    2.33 Willi Entenmann
    2.33 Ludwig Müller

    1974-75

    1.79 Berti Vogts
    1.88 Franz Beckenbauer
    2.09 Bernard Dietz
    2.09 Manfred Ritschel
    2.15 Klaus Franke

    1975-76

    1.79 Berti Vogts
    1.88 Franz Beckenbauer
    1.97 Bernard Dietz
    2.03 Willi Neuberger
    2.16 Per Roentved

    1976-77

    1.96 Berti Vogts
    2.00 Franz Beckenbauer
    2.21 Herbert Zimmermann
    2.22 Wolfgang Weber
    2.24 Ditmar Jakobs
    2.24 Hans-Jürgen Wittkamp

    1977-78

    2.03 Bernard Dietz
    2.06 Rolf Rüssmann
    2.21 Karlheinz Förster
    2.21 Franz-Josef Tenhagen
    2.21 Berti Vogts

    1978-79

    2.15 Dieter Bast
    2.15 Bernd Martin
    2.24 Klaus Fichtel
    2.28 Gerd Zewe
    2.38 Karlheinz Förster

    1979-80

    2.00 Hans-Peter Briegel
    2.24 Franz-Josef Tenhagen
    2.25 Manfred Kaltz
    2.26 Karlheinz Förster
    2.31 Klaus Fichtel

    1980-81

    2.16 Bruno Pezzey
    2.21 Hans-Peter Briegel
    2.21 Wilfried Hannes
    2.26 DieterBast
    2.39 Rolf Rüssmann

    1981-82

    2.18 Rolf Rüssmann
    2.21 Dieter Bast
    2.31 Manfred Kaltz
    2.32 Holger Hieronymus
    2.32 Klaus Fichtel

    1982-83

    2.09 Dieter Bast
    2.29 Gerd Strack
    2.34 Karlheinz Förster
    2.44 Horst Wohlers
    2.45 Hans-Peter Briegel

    1983-84

    2.07 Matthias Herget
    2.22 Karlheinz Förster
    2.43 Hans-Peter Makan
    2.44 Gerd Zewe
    2.45 Dieter Bast

    1984-85

    2.48 Matthias Herget
    2.52 Bruno Pezzey
    2.52 Karlheinz Förster
    2.63 Bernard Dietz
    2.65 Hans Pflügler

    1985-86

    2.32 Thomas Hörster
    2.39 Bruno Pezzey
    2.57 Wolfgang Funkel
    2.59 Karlheinz Förster
    2.67 Klaus Augenthaler
    2.67 Hans-Günter Bruns
    2.67 Günter Sebert

    1986-87

    2.56 Ditmar Jakobs
    2.58 Guido Buchwald
    2.59 Thomas Hörster
    2.67 Stefan Reuter
    2.69 Jürgen Kohler

    1987-88

    2.33 Jürgen Kohler
    2.52 Rune Bratseth
    2.65 Manfred Binz
    2.66 Srecko Bogdan
    2.69 Matthias Herget

    1988-89

    2.50 Rune Bratseth
    2.58 Jürgen Kohler
    2.58 Klaus Augenthaler
    2.66 Karl Allgöwer
    2.67 Karl-Heinz Körbel

    1989-90

    2.54 Guido Buchwald
    2.62 Manfred Binz
    2.63 Thomas Kempe
    2.66 Rune Bratseth
    2.76 Ralf Loose

    1990-91

    2.57 Guido Buchwald
    2.69 Jürgen Kohler
    2.74 Reinhard Stumpf
    2.77 Stefan Reuter
    2.77 Miroslav Kadlec

    1991-92

    2.53 Manfred Binz
    2.72 Holger Fach
    2.74 Franco Foda
    2.79 Anders Giske
    2.84 Michael Schulz

    1992-93

    2.83 Rune Bratseth
    2.90 Oliver Kreuzer
    2.94 Kakhaber Tchachadze
    2.95 Ned Zelic
    2.96 Dietmar Beiersdorfer

    1993-94

    2.42 Lothar Matthäus
    2.70 Matthias Sammer
    2.73 Thomas Berthold
    2.84 Guido Buchwald
    2.85 Miroslav Kadlec

    1994-95

    2.17 Matthias Sammer
    2.62 Patrik Andersson
    2.66 Julio César
    2.75 Thomas Helmer
    2.83 Martin Spanring

    1995-96

    2.67 Dietmar Beiersdorfer
    2.86 Matthias Sammer
    2.86 Jürgen Kohler
    2.88 Frank Verlaat
    2.89 Patrik Andersson

    1996-97

    2.62 Christian Wörns
    2.74 Alfred Nijhuis
    2.75 Frank Verlaat
    2.80 Olaf Thon
    2.81 Thomas Berthold

    1997-98

    2.81 Christian Wörns
    2.84 Olaf Thon
    2.87 Miroslav Kadlec
    2.88 Lothar Matthäus
    2.92 Michael Schjönberg

    1998-99

    2.78 Jens Nowotny
    2.79 Holger Greilich
    2.84 Bixente Lizarazu
    2.88 Frank Verlaat
    2.96 Lothar Matthäus

    1999-2000

    2.76 Nico Jan Hoogma
    2.77 Jens Nowotny
    2.95 Olaf Thon
    3.00 Jan Seifert
    3.04 Ned Zelic

    2000-01

    2.98 Jens Nowotny
    3.04 Thomas Cichon
    3.09 Jürgen Kohler
    3.13 Christian Wörns
    3.13 Tomas Ujfalusi

    2001-02

    2.78 Lucio
    2.78 Jens Nowotny
    2.88 Christian Wörns
    3.02 Marcelo Bordon
    3.06 Jürgen Kohler

    2002-03

    2.84 Willy Sagnol
    2.97 Thomas Linke
    3.10 Christoph Metzelder
    3.17 Lucio
    3.19 Ahmed Madouni

    2003-04

    2.70 Lucio
    2.78 Juan
    2.81 Marcelo Bordon
    2.86 Valerien Ismael
    2.90 Christian Wörns

    2004-05

    2.81 Marcelo Bordon
    2.86 Lucio
    2.95 Valerien Ismael
    3.03 Josip Simunic
    3.06 Daniel van Buyten

    2005-06

    2.92 Lucio
    3.09 Christian Wörns
    3.13 Willy Sagnol
    3.15 Cris
    3.24 Philipp Lahm

    2006-07

    2.96 Per Mertesacker
    2.97 Naldo
    2.98 Marcelo Bordon
    3.03 Fernando Meira
    3.03 Matthieu Delpierre

    2007-08

    2.75 Martin Demichelis
    2.87 Marcelo Bordon
    2.98 Per Mertesacker
    3.06 Daniel van Buyten
    3.15 Gonzalo Castro

    2008-09

    2.88 Philipp Lahm
    2.88 Josip Simunic
    3.04 Per Mertesacker
    3.09 Arne Friedrich
    3.14 Benedikt Höwedes

    2009-10

    2.86 Sami Hyypiä
    3.04 Gonzalo Castro
    3.04 Philipp Lahm
    3.05 Naldo
    3.05 Daniel van Buyten
     
  15. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    Great info Greg , as usual
    Is the rating all from kicker still?
     
  16. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Bolzplatz

    It's all by Kicker.
     
  17. Dearman

    Dearman Member

    Red Star Belgrade
    Argentina
    Feb 24, 2010
    Bangkok, Thailand
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    Nat'l Team:
    Thailand
    Hi, Gregoriak

    Thanks for useful details agina. If without you, I really can't rank German players in xtatime.org.

    I notice Netzer won a lot winners as midfielders despite kicker ranked Overath in more world-class years. In the same sources, It is different between two form of results. Could you explain why it is so.
     
  18. schwuppe

    schwuppe Member+

    Sep 17, 2009
    Club:
    FC Kryvbas Kryvyi Rih
    Awesome.

    Kicker seemed to be more generous to give away good grades as the player average rating get worse each year.

    Interesting that Müller ranks rather bad.


    Similar ratings from Spain/Italy/England would be of great usefulness - anything available sort of?
     
  19. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    No, 1 to 6 actually (sorry, a bit late, forgot about this thread ;)). Not originally, I think - but at least since the 1990s.

    Edit: I think "6" was introduced sometime arround 1980 by kicker (compare the worst rated players of the 1970s with the 1980s - the latter got "6" sometimes, but I couldn't find a playerwho was rated 6 before 1980 so far).
     
  20. schwuppe

    schwuppe Member+

    Sep 17, 2009
    Club:
    FC Kryvbas Kryvyi Rih
    Kicker used a 5 or 6 grade scale until 93/94
    After 93/94 they introduced 1,5; 2,5; 3,5 ... etc.

    One reason why ratings got worse
     
  21. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    Edit: sorry, misread your post at first. I first read it as saying Kicker used a 5 grade scale until 93/94 (saw the "or 6" only after posting :p). So my original post wasn't really neccessary anymore - still, I wrote that as far as I can tell the change to the 1-6 scale happened in 1980/1981.
     
  22. deleted

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    Aug 18, 2006
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    and shoot and match weren't completely thorough in their ratings IIRC...(havent read one in 10 years though)
     
  23. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Bolzplatz
    PART FOUR

    Top-Rated Goalkeepers


    1963-64 1.83 Manfred PAUL
    1964-65 1.76 Hans TILKOWSKI
    1965-66 1.58 Sepp MAIER
    1966-67 1.66 Horst WOLTER
    1967-68 1.84 Horst WOLTER
    1968-69 1.71 Volkmar GROSS
    1969-70 1.85 Sepp MAIER
    1970-71 2.00 Volker DANNER
    1971-72 2.03 Norbert NIGBUR
    1972-73 1.85 Bernd FRANKE
    1973-74 1.88 Norbert NIGBUR
    1974-75 2.00 Bernd FRANKE
    1975-76 2.00 Rudi KARGUS
    1976-77 1.65 Volkmar GROSS
    1977-78 1.91 Ronnie HELLSTRÖM
    1978-79 1.91 Dieter BURDENSKI
    1979-80 2.11 Norbert NIGBUR
    1980-81 2.13 Heinz-Josef KOITKA
    1981-82 1.94 Bernd FRANKE
    1982-83 2.00 Bernd FRANKE
    1983-84 2.18 Harald SCHUMACHER
    1984-85 2.38 Gerald EHRMANN
    1985-86 2.35 Dieter BURDENSKI
    1986-87 2.13 Uwe KAMPS
    1987-88 2.38 Andreas KÖPKE
    1988-89 2.42 Gerald EHRMANN
    1989-90 2.50 Uli STEIN
    1990-91 2.50 Uli STEIN
    1991-92 2.32 Uli STEIN
    1992-93 2.35 Uli STEIN
    1993-94 2.39 Oliver KAHN
    1994-95 2.71 Uli STEIN
    1995-96 2.53 Georg KOCH
    1996-97 2.55 Oliver KAHN
    1997-98 2.69 Oliver KAHN
    1998-99 2.63 Gintaras STAUCE
    1999-00 2.67 Oliver KAHN
    2000-01 2.75 Oliver KAHN
    2001-02 2.66 Oliver KAHN
    2002-03 2.66 Rein VAN DUIJNHOVEN
    2003-04 2.74 Rein VAN DUIJNHOVEN
    2004-05 2.58 Roman WEIDENFELLER
    2005-06 2.65 Roman WEIDENFELLER
    2006-07 2.61 Manuel NEUER
    2007-08 2.62 Diego BENAGLIO
    2008-09 2.67 Robert ENKE
    2009-10 2.83 Heinz MÜLLER



    1963-64

    1.83 Manfred Paul
    1.86 Hans Tilkowski
    1.86 Hans Jäcker
    1.90 Günter Sawitzki
    1.90 Petar Radenkovic

    1964-65

    1.76 Hans Tilkowski
    1.80 Wolfgang Fahrian
    1.90 Horst Kirsch
    1.96 Roland Wabra
    2.00 Hans Jäcker

    1965-66

    1.58 Sepp Maier
    1.71 Günter Bernard
    1.80 Dr. Peter Kunter
    1.85 Günter Sawitzki
    1.86 Manfred Paul

    1966-67

    1.66 Horst Wolter
    1.79 Sepp Maier
    1.86 Hermann Ross
    1.91 Siegfried Kessler
    1.92 Petar Radenkovic

    1967-68

    1.84 Horst Wolter
    1.85 Petar Radenkovic
    1.85 Roland Wabra
    1.90 Jürgen Rynio
    2.03 Volkmar Danner

    1968-69

    1.71 Volkmar Gross
    1.94 Manfred Manglitz
    1.96 Jürgen Rynio
    1.96 Horst Wolter
    1.97 Gerhard Heinze

    1969-70

    1.85 Sepp Maier
    1.88 Manfred Manglitz
    2.03 Petar Radenkovic
    2.05 Volkmar Gross
    2.09 Norbert Nigbur

    1970-71

    2.00 Volker Danner
    2.03 Norbert Nigbur
    2.04 Dr. Peter Kunter
    2.09 Volkmar Gross
    2.09 Sepp Maier

    1971-72

    2.03 Norbert Nigbur
    2.08 Bernd Franke
    2.16 Dieter Burdenski
    2.19 Dr. Peter Kunter
    2.32 Gerhard Welz

    1972-73

    1.85 Bernd Franke
    1.93 Günter Bernard
    2.03 Gerhard Heinze
    2.06 Norbert Nigbur
    2.17 Dietmar Linders

    1973-74

    1.88 Norbert Nigbur
    2.00 Franz-Josef Pauly
    2.12 Dietmar Linders
    2.18 Werner Scholz
    2.19 Wilfried Woyke

    1974-75

    2.00 Bernd Franke
    2.03 Ronnie Hellström
    2.09 Sepp Maier
    2.15 Werner Scholz
    2.22 Gerhard Heinze

    1975-76

    2.00 Rudi Kargus
    2.03 Bernd Franke
    2.06 Sepp Maier
    2.09 Dieter Burdenski
    2.12 Ronnie Hellström

    1976-77

    1.65 Volkmar Gross
    1.88 Bernd Franke
    1.97 Norbert Nigbur
    2.00 Dieter Burdenski
    2.00 Dieter Ferner

    1977-78

    1.91 Ronnie Hellström
    2.00 Dieter Burdenski
    2.12 Norbert Nigbur
    2.12 Helmut Roleder
    2.13 Bernd Franke

    1978-79

    1.91 Dieter Burdenski
    2.00 Ronnie Hellström
    2.06 Norbert Nigbur
    2.12 Uli Stein
    2.26 Rudi Kargus

    1979-80

    2.11 Norbert Nigbur
    2.12 Harald Schumacher
    2.19 Bernd Franke
    2.27 Ronnie Hellström
    2.32 Helmut Roleder

    1980-81

    2.13 Heinz-Josef Koitka
    2.15 Ronnie Hellström
    2.21 Harald Schumacher
    2.32 Gerhard Heinze
    2.36 Rudi Kargus

    1981-82

    1.94 Bernd Franke
    2.14 Rudi Wimmer
    2.21 Dieter Burdenski
    2.28 Ralf Zumdick
    2.35 Eike Immel

    1982-83

    2.00 Bernd Franke
    2.18 Dieter Burdenski
    2.21 Rudi Kargus
    2.21 Harald Schumacher
    2.22 Jean-Marie Pfaff

    1983-84

    2.18 Harald Schumacher
    2.20 Bernd Franke
    2.24 Helmut Roleder
    2.26 Dieter Burdenski
    2.32 Wolfgang Kneib

    1984-85

    2.38 Gerald Ehrmann
    2.39 Uli Stein
    2.47 Uwe Greiner
    2.47 Uli Sude
    2.48 Walter Junghans

    1985-86

    2.35 Dieter Burdenski
    2.41 Eike Immel
    2.50 Carsten Hallmann
    2.50 Jean-Marie Pfaff
    2.52 Harald Schumacher

    1986-87

    2.13 Uwe Kamps
    2.43 Uli Stein
    2.55 Rudi Kargus
    2.59 Rüdiger Vollborn
    2.59 Wolfgang de Beer
    2.59 Jean-Marie Pfaff

    1987-88

    2.38 Andreas Köpke
    2.47 Uwe Kamps
    2.55 Uli Stein
    2.59 Eike Immel
    2.59 Uwe Zimmermann

    1988-89

    2.42 Gerald Ehrmann
    2.42 Andreas Köpke
    2.47 Wolfgang de Beer
    2.56 Uli Stein
    2.59 Raimond Aumann

    1989-90

    2.50 Uli Stein
    2.53 Rüdiger Vollborn
    2.57 Gerald Ehrmann
    2.62 Uwe Kamps
    2.65 Richard Golz

    1990-91

    2.50 Uli Stein
    2.52 Andreas Köpke
    2.63 Jörg Schmadtke
    2.64 Oliver Kahn
    2.75 Wolfgang de Beer

    1991-92

    2.32 Uli Stein
    2.35 Andreas Köpke
    2.54 Bodo Illgner
    2.63 Eike Immel
    2.71 Gerald Ehrmann
    2.71 Rüdiger Vollborn

    1992-93

    2.35 Uli Stein
    2.50 Andreas Köpke
    2.65 Stefan Klos
    2.68 Oliver Kahn
    2.73 Eike Immel

    1993-94

    2.39 Oliver Kahn
    2.48 Bodo Illgner
    2.50 Uli Stein
    2.65 Andreas Köpke
    2.70 Raimond Aumann

    1994-95

    2.71 Uli Stein
    2.73 Bernd Meier
    2.75 Andreas Köpke
    2.79 Bernd Dreher
    2.81 Uwe Kamps

    1995-96

    2.53 Georg Koch
    2.55 Oliver Reck
    2.59 Jens Lehmann
    2.68 Dirk Heinen
    2.72 Perry Bräutigam

    1996-97

    2.55 Oliver Kahn
    2.66 Claus Reitmaier
    2.70 Georg Koch
    2.79 Uwe Gospodarek
    2.82 Perry Bräutigam

    1997-98

    2.69 Oliver Kahn
    2.73 Martin Pieckenhagen
    2.80 Franz Wohlfahrt
    2.81 Thomas Ernst
    2.81 Uwe Kamps

    1998-99

    2.63 Gintaras Stauce
    2.71 Oka Nikolov
    2.74 Oliver Kahn
    2.82 Richard Golz
    2.83 Stefan Klos

    1999-2000

    2.67 Oliver Kahn
    2.72 Jörg Butt
    2.79 Dirk Heinen
    2.86 Andreas Reinke
    2.89 Daniel Hoffmann

    2000-01

    2.75 Oliver Kahn
    2.82 Martin Pieckenhagen
    2.84 Frank Rost
    2.84 Georg Koch
    2.86 Rein van Duijnhoven

    2001-02

    2.66 Oliver Kahn
    2.69 Frank Rost
    2.83 Jens Lehmann
    2.88 Gabor Kiraly
    2.90 Jörg Butt

    2002-03

    2.66 Rein van Duijnhoven
    2.71 Tim Wiese
    2.75 Timo Hildebrand
    2.78 Simon Jentzsch
    2.79 Frank Rost

    2003-04

    2.74 Rein van Duijnhoven
    2.81 Timo Hildebrand
    2.86 Oliver Kahn
    2.89 Matthias Schober
    2.94 Jörg Butt

    2004-05

    2.58 Roman Weidenfeller
    2.78 Robert Enke
    2.82 Dimo Wache
    2.83 Rein van Duijnhoven
    2.88 Simon Jentzsch

    2005-06

    2.65 Roman Weidenfeller
    2.78 Frank Rost
    2.79 Kasey Keller
    2.79 Georg Koch
    2.89 RobertEnke

    2006-07

    2.61 Manuel Neuer
    2.76 Jaroslav Drobny
    2.79 Raphael Schäfer
    2.89 Timo Hildebrand
    2.93 Roman Weidenfeller

    2007-08

    2.62 Diego Benaglio
    2.62 René Adler
    2.75 Robert Enke
    2.84 Frank Rost
    2.96 Markus Pröll

    2008-09

    2.67 Robert Enke
    2.87 Diego Benaglio
    2.91 Manuel Neuer
    2.92 Jaroslav Drobny
    2.95 René Adler

    2009-10

    2.83 Heinz Müller
    2.84 Tim Wiese
    2.85 Frank Rost
    2.85 Jörg Butt
    2.88 Jaroslav Drobny
     
  24. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    I found this page
    http://www.fussballdaten.de/vereine/fortunakoeln/1974/

    These were Kicker's points by seasons?
     
  25. schwuppe

    schwuppe Member+

    Sep 17, 2009
    Club:
    FC Kryvbas Kryvyi Rih
    One thing you might consider about his high rating is that Woodcock played only 20 out of 34 possible games.
     

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