Top 50 Football Clubs of All-Time (South America)

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  1. King of STS

    King of STS Member

    Oct 20, 2017
    1. Peñarol (Uruguay)
    2. Nacional (Uruguay)
    3. River Plate (Argentina)
    4. Boca Juniors (Argentina)
    5. Independiente (Argentina)
    6. São Paulo (Brazil)
    7. Olimpia (Paraguay)
    8. Santos (Brazil)
    9. Palmeiras (Brazil)
    10. San Lorenzo (Argentina)
    11. Colo-Colo (Chile)
    12. Racing (Argentina)
    13. Cruzeiro (Brazil)
    14. Cerro Porteño (Paraguay)
    15. Corinthians (Brazil)
    16. Grêmio (Brazil)
    17. Internacional (Brazil)
    18. Estudiantes (Argentina)
    19. Vélez Sarsfield (Argentina)
    20. Atlético Mineiro (Brazil)
    21. Universidad Católica (Chile)
    22. Flamengo (Brazil)
    23. Universitario (Peru)
    24. Universidad de Chile (Chile)
    25. Atlético Nacional (Colombia)
    26. Vasco da Gama (Brazil)
    27. América de Cali (Colombia)
    28. Libertad (Paraguay)
    29. Millonarios (Colombia)
    30. Fluminense (Brazil)
    31. Bolívar (Bolivia)
    32. Barcelona (Ecuador)
    33. Alianza Lima (Peru)
    34. Defensor Sporting (Uruguay)
    35. Deportivo Cali (Colombia)
    36. Newell's Old Boys (Argentina)
    37. Montevideo Wanderers (Uruguay)
    38. Sporting Cristal (Peru)
    39. Emelec (Ecuador)
    40. Botafogo (Brazil)
    41. Guaraní (Paraguay)
    42. Rosario Central (Argentina)
    43. Huracán (Argentina)
    44. El Nacional (Ecuador)
    45. Lanús (Argentina)
    46. Cobreloa (Chile)
    47. L.D.U. Quito (Ecuador)
    48. Unión Española (Chile)
    49. Independiente Santa Fe (Colombia)
    50. The Strongest (Bolivia)
     
  2. King of STS

    King of STS Member

    Oct 20, 2017
    Top 10 Football Leagues (South America), based on All-Time Performance in All CONMEBOL Club Competitions

    1. Argentina (Argentine Primera División)
    2. Brazil (Campeonato Brasileiro Série A)
    3. Uruguay (Uruguayan Primera División)
    4. Colombia (Categoría Primera A)
    5. Paraguay (Paraguayan Primera División)
    6. Chile (Chilean Primera División)
    7. Ecuador (Ecuadorian Serie A)
    8. Peru (Peruvian Primera División)
    9. Bolivia (Liga de Fútbol Profesional Boliviano)
    10. Venezuela (Venezuelan Primera División)
     
  3. praxis.en

    praxis.en Member

    May 13, 2015
    BOG/PNW
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    LOL. San Lorenzo #10?
    and no colombian club even in the top 20?
    teams like Racing barely made impact beside winning the cup in the 60's or whatev


    who made this..?
     
  4. AcesHigh

    AcesHigh Member+

    Nov 30, 2005
    Novo Hamburgo
    Club:
    Gremio Porto Alegre
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    what? Grêmio only 16th?

    2x Lib champions (When thread was created, now 3x)
    5x Copa do Brasil champion
    2x Brazil league champion
     
  5. NaBUru38

    NaBUru38 Member

    Mar 8, 2016
    Las Canteras, Uruguay
    Club:
    Club Nacional de Football
    That ranking puts too much emphasis to national championships.

    Estudiantes won four Libertadores, that should put them easily into the top 10.
    Gremio won four Libertadores, that should put them easily into the top 15.

    River won just three Libertadores, they can't be in the top 5.
    Colo-Colo played just two Libertadores finals, they can't be in the top 15.
    Corinthians played just one Libertadores final, they can't be in the top 20.
     
  6. AcesHigh

    AcesHigh Member+

    Nov 30, 2005
    Novo Hamburgo
    Club:
    Gremio Porto Alegre
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I really hope you came from the future, from December 2018 to be more exact.

    Grêmio also won a World Title and tied with that GREAT Ajax team of 1995, which was basically the Dutch national team.


    Also, in Brazil, the Brazil Cup has a great weight, maybe unlike national Cups in other S.American countries? And Grêmio won five Brazil Cups. So does Cruzeiro.

    But Grêmio has one Libertadores more. Plus the intercontinental title.
     
  7. NaBUru38

    NaBUru38 Member

    Mar 8, 2016
    Las Canteras, Uruguay
    Club:
    Club Nacional de Football
    Just a typo. I wouldn't waste a time machine to write in forums :p
     
  8. King of STS

    King of STS Member

    Oct 20, 2017
    Top 50 Football Clubs of All-Time (South America)

    1. Peñarol (Uruguay)
    2. Nacional (Uruguay)
    3. River Plate (Argentina)
    4. Boca Juniors (Argentina)
    5. Independiente (Argentina)
    6. São Paulo (Brazil)
    7. Olimpia (Paraguay)
    8. Santos (Brazil)
    9. Palmeiras (Brazil)
    10. San Lorenzo (Argentina)
    11. Cruzeiro (Brazil)
    12. Colo-Colo (Chile)
    13. Racing (Argentina)
    14. Grêmio (Brazil)
    15. Cerro Porteño (Paraguay)
    16. Corinthians (Brazil)
    17. Internacional (Brazil)
    18. Flamengo (Brazil)
    19. Estudiantes (Argentina)
    20. Vélez Sarsfield (Argentina)
    21. Atlético Mineiro (Brazil)
    22. Vasco da Gama (Brazil)
    23. Fluminense (Brazil)
    24. Universidad Católica (Chile)
    25. Atlético Nacional (Colombia)
    26. Universitario (Peru)
    27. Universidad de Chile (Chile)
    28. Millonarios (Colombia)
    29. Libertad (Paraguay)
    30. América de Cali (Colombia)
    31. Bolívar (Bolivia)
    32. Barcelona (Ecuador)
    33. Defensor Sporting (Uruguay)
    34. Botafogo (Brazil)
    35. Deportivo Cali (Colombia)
    36. Alianza Lima (Peru)
    37. Newell's Old Boys (Argentina)
    38. Montevideo Wanderers (Uruguay)
    39. Sporting Cristal (Peru)
    40. Emelec (Ecuador)
    41. Guaraní (Paraguay)
    42. Rosario Central (Argentina)
    43. Huracán (Argentina)
    44. Lanús (Argentina)
    45. El Nacional (Ecuador)
    46. Cobreloa (Chile)
    47. L.D.U. Quito (Ecuador)
    48. Unión Española (Chile)
    49. Independiente Santa Fe (Colombia)
    50. The Strongest (Bolivia)
     
  9. King of STS

    King of STS Member

    Oct 20, 2017
    Top 10 Football Leagues of All-Time/CONMEBOL Club Competitions (South America)

    1. Argentina (Argentine Primera División)
    2. Brazil (Campeonato Brasileiro Série A)
    3. Uruguay (Uruguayan Primera División)
    4. Colombia (Categoría Primera A)
    5. Paraguay (Paraguayan Primera División)
    6. Chile (Chilean Primera División)
    7. Ecuador (Ecuadorian Serie A)
    8. Peru (Peruvian Primera División)
    9. Bolivia (Bolivian Primera División)
    10. Venezuela (Venezuelan Primera División)
     
  10. King of STS

    King of STS Member

    Oct 20, 2017
    Mistakenly didnt add Campeonato Carioca (points) at the original list.
     
  11. King of STS

    King of STS Member

    Oct 20, 2017
    I gave Colombian league higher rank than say leagues from Paraguay, Chile and Peru (highest points in general also among the best in the world), however the number of domestic league titles in comparison to the rest indeed played a key role in that respect.
    I also think that you should consider the national team performances (historically), Brazil and Argentina would be on the front they are the more traditional leagues.
    For another hypothetical example, Peru has very low league in South America their best period of the level of performance success at the Copa Libertadores finals came in the 1970s which it was a glorious decade for Peruvian football.
    Peru had a decent generations in the 1930s & 1950s before the Copa Libertadores was born this partly is an indicator of national championships quality.
    In conclusion, NTs performances to maintain the balance as well, everything taken care of and arranged, so no worries.
     
  12. King of STS

    King of STS Member

    Oct 20, 2017
    Absolutely we have to give a lot of credit to CL performers but not all the credit and yes national league are important too.
    Continental competitions is not everything in club football.
     
  13. King of STS

    King of STS Member

    Oct 20, 2017
    And let's not forget Independiente won seven Libertadores that should put them easily into the number one.
     
  14. King of STS

    King of STS Member

    Oct 20, 2017
    Well, I think it's reasonable place for Gremio head as the fifth best Brazilian club of all time, whom above achieved better domestically and internationally combined.
     
  15. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And they produced Lucas Leiva. What's not to like?
     
  16. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does Guyana have a league?
     
  17. King of STS

    King of STS Member

    Oct 20, 2017
    Yes, national soccer team too.
     
  18. King of STS

    King of STS Member

    Oct 20, 2017
    Copa Libertadores (All-Time)

    1. Peñarol (Uruguay)
    2. Boca Juniors (Argentina)
    3. River Plate (Argentina)
    4. Nacional (Uruguay)
    5. Olimpia (Paraguay)
    6. Independiente (Argentina)
    7. São Paulo (Brazil)
    8. Grêmio (Brazil)
    9. Santos (Brazil)
    10. América de Cali (Colombia)
    11. Estudiantes (Argentina)
    12. Palmeiras (Brazil)
    13. Cerro Porteño (Paraguay)
    14. Cruzeiro (Brazil)
    15. Barcelona (Ecuador)
    16. Atlético Nacional (Colombia)
    17. Colo-Colo (Chile)
    18. Universitario (Peru)
    19. Internacional (Brazil)
    20. Deportivo Cali (Colombia)
    21. Universidad Católica (Chile)
    22. Bolívar (Bolivia)
    23. San Lorenzo (Argentina)
    24. Universidad de Chile (Chile)
    25. Vélez Sarsfield (Argentina)
    26. Flamengo (Brazil)
    27. Corinthians (Brazil)
    28. Millonarios (Colombia)
    29. Racing (Argentina)
    30. Cobreloa (Chile)


    Copa Conmebol

    1. Atlético Mineiro (Brazil)
    2. Rosario Central (Argentina)
    3. Lanús (Argentina)
    4. Peñarol (Uruguay)
    5. Botafogo (Brazil)


    Copa Sudamericana

    1. River Plate (Argentina)
    2. Boca Juniors (Argentina)
    3. Atlético Nacional (Colombia)
    4. L.D.U. Quito (Ecuador)
    5. São Paulo (Brazil)


    Argentina (Argentine Primera División)

    1. River Plate
    2. Boca Juniors
    3. San Lorenzo
    4. Independiente
    5. Racing
    6. Vélez Sarsfield
    7. Estudiantes
    8. Newell's Old Boys
    9. Huracán
    10. Alumni 1898-1913


    Brazil (Campeonato Brasileiro Série A)

    1. Palmeiras
    2. Santos
    3. São Paulo
    4. Corinthians
    5. Cruzeiro
    6. Internacional
    7. Grêmio
    8. Atlético Mineiro
    9. Fluminense
    10. Vasco da Gama


    Brazil (Campeonato Paulista)

    1. Corinthians
    2. Palmeiras
    3. São Paulo
    4. Santos

    Brazil (Campeonato Carioca)

    1. Flamengo
    2. Fluminense
    3. Vasco da Gama
    4. Botafogo


    Uruguay (Uruguayan Primera División)

    1. Peñarol
    2. Nacional
    3. Defensor Sporting
    4. Montevideo Wanderers
    5. Danubio


    Colombia (Categoría Primera A)

    1. Atlético Nacional
    2. Millonarios
    3. América de Cali
    4. Deportivo Cali
    5. Independiente Santa Fe


    Paraguay (Paraguayan Primera División)

    1. Olimpia
    2. Cerro Porteño
    3. Libertad
    4. Guaraní
    5. Nacional


    Chile (Chilean Primera División)

    1. Colo-Colo
    2. Universidad de Chile
    3. Universidad Católica
    4. Cobreloa
    5. Unión Española


    Ecuador (Ecuadorian Serie A)

    1. Barcelona
    2. Emelec
    3. El Nacional
    4. L.D.U. Quito
    5. S.D. Quito


    Peru (Peruvian Primera División)

    1. Universitario
    2. Alianza Lima
    3. Sporting Cristal
    4. Sport Boys
    5. Deportivo Municipal


    Bolivia (Liga de Fútbol Profesional Boliviano)

    1. Bolívar
    2. The Strongest
    3. Jorge Wilstermann
    4. Oriente Petrolero
    5. Blooming


    Venezuela (Venezuelan Primera División)

    1. Caracas
    2. Deportivo Táchira
    3. Deportivo Petare
    4. Portuguesa
    5. Deportivo Galicia 1985-2002
     
  19. railita

    railita Red Card

    Aug 1, 2019
    teams like Racing barely made impact beside winning the cup in the 60's or whatev
     
  20. railita

    railita Red Card

    Aug 1, 2019
    teams like Racing barely made impact beside winning the cup in the 60's or whatev
     
  21. Chaliaaaj

    Chaliaaaj Member

    Argentinos Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 21, 2018
    Argentinos Juniors won the Cup in 1985, aside from local tournaments and developing a ton of players, how are they not on this list?
     
  22. LargeGuyBobby

    LargeGuyBobby New Member

    Manchester United
    United States
    Oct 7, 2019
    Atlanta, GA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Had to make a new acct for some reason couldn't open my old. But I'm back!
     

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