Time for an overhaul - Summer Transfer Thread

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by chjoak, Apr 14, 2017.

  1. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    The refusal to pay up to agents and families (ala Mbappe) is the thing I'm least upset about (more like not at all). If the club's trying to make sure it's above board legally and ethically, I can't find fault with that, even if it hurts on the pitch.
     
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  2. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Yeah, this is a big issue. Happening as a one off now and again is fine, but Arsenal is wealthy enough that they should be more proactive in this area, getting who they need/want first and then dismissing the leftovers.
    Would love to know what happened here.

    I'm less concerned about their actual relations than whether each of them is doing the job they're supposed to do. Somewhere between the pair of them the performance from the front office is breaking down.
    I have no problem with this whatsoever. Arsenal are wealthy enough that they can be active and put forth one of the most expensive teams around. At the least they should be performing better than what we're seeing the past few years.
    I think they meant last summer, when Chelsea ended up signing him.
     
  3. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    So we will never win the cl or premier but u are happy? What is the point in being the only virtuous club? This is the most corrupt sport in the world
     
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  4. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Agree

    Also why risk jail time?

    This is also why Utd simply pay thru the snot these days. No Utd brass is going to risk fraudulent deals and US jail time
     
  5. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The contrast between these two posts (both replies to the same original post) was priceless...

     
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  6. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I'm a broken man

    I've lost all morals since leaving my beautiful home city for derby

    Now I just want the sweet smell of victory as my life descends into family pacakage holidays and teletubbies
     
  7. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    This, B.I.G. Man.

    Also, isn't Derby fairly close to Brum? By US standards, it's practically a suburb.
     
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  8. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    When did paying agent fees equal jail time?
     
  9. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    English teams complain about having to fly to Ukraine for Champions League matches. The flight takes half as long as New York to Seattle does.
     
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  10. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    It doesn't if that is all it is

    But see neyamr deal

    Concealed inducements paid by Barca can land you in prison
     
  11. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Several friends of mine work as lawyers for US firms in corrupt countries

    It's simply not worth the personal risk
     
  12. cantona94

    cantona94 Member

    Jul 16, 2000
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  13. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Then don't do that

    But not paying high agent fees for highly rated talent reeks of stupidity.
     
  14. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    US law firms or companies? FCPA compliance is a PITA.
     
  15. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    It's never just the agent fees though. It's the payments to the father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate that are a problem. And oftentimes those are needed to get deals done.
     
  16. Fifty

    Fifty Member

    Mar 11, 2012
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it's hilarious people think Arsenal are not corrupt.
     
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  17. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    Ornstein is referring to the year before last. I don't remember Arsenal clearly being interested in him at the time, so that bit of information surprised me.
     
  18. bandwagongooner

    bandwagongooner Member+

    Dec 9, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A different kind of corrupt. It's trickle-up economics corrupt
     
  19. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    there is clearly a line that no one crosses. Arsenal refuses to even come close to that line. THats why our agent fees are often very low.

    If you want these players, you have to get your hands a little dirty. This sport is very dirty and Arsenal are not saints.
     
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  20. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Remember beveren?
     
  21. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    "Brexit: A Tableau"

    Excuse me, Dick Law, Esq. runs a tight ship.
     
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  22. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    Excessive agent fees could be classified as a kick back.
     
  23. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I need to see clubs punished for it before I don't see it as Arsenal being cheap.
     
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  24. scott47a

    scott47a Member+

    Seattle Sounders FC; Arsenal FC
    Feb 6, 2007
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can't believe people are concerned about Arsenal not being dirty enough.

    I prefer my Arsenal to be different than Chelsea, ManU, ManCity, Real Madrid, PSG, etc. I'm not really interested in clubs that believe in winning at any and all costs. Arsenal's approach way back in the 1990s is what drew me to the club. I'd like to see them go back to that approach and the hell with what other people are doing.

    I'd rather have a Arsenal finishing 5th and winning a cup than end up supporting a club that acts like Chelsea. Screw Chelsea and City and all those other idiots. I am old enough to remember a time when they were all shit clubs before the dirty money from Russian oligarchs and Middle Eastern dictators ruined the competitive nature of the European game.
     
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  25. Fifty

    Fifty Member

    Mar 11, 2012
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As if Wal-Mart money is clean.
     
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