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  1. Stuart95

    Stuart95 Member+

    Mar 11, 2012
    NoVA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLS All-Stars 0, Atletico Madrid 3 | 2019 MLS All-Star Game Recap
    https://matchcenter.mlssoccer.com/matchcenter/2019-07-31-mls-all-star-team-vs-atletico-madrid/recap

    Llorente, Felix, Costa score as Atletico Madrid beats MLS All-Stars, 3-0
    https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/so...sta-score-atletico-madrid-beats-mls-stars-3-0

    Wondolowski, Rimando make lasting All-Star memories as their careers near their end
    https://www.espn.com/soccer/major-l...star-memories-as-their-careers-near-their-end

    Brad Guzan, Josef Martinez laugh at Orlando reception at MLS All-Star Game
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019/08/01/brad-guzan-josef-martinez-laugh-orlando-reception-mls-all-star-game

    Amid Major League Soccer All-Star Game festivities, players discuss possible 2020 strike
    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sp...ers-brace-possibility-2020-strike/1877808001/

    Andre Blake, Kemar Lawrence inspire younger Jamaicans with MLS All-Star Game appearance
    https://www.prosoccerusa.com/mls/an...-jamaicans-with-mls-all-star-game-appearance/

    How the Revolution have gone from MLS abyss to playoff contention
    https://www.boston.com/sports/soccer/2019/07/31/new-england-revolution-turnaround-bruce-arena

    Brad Smith loan extended to end of 2019 MLS season
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019/07/31/brad-smith-loan-extended-end-2019-mls-season

    DC United and midfielder Chris McCann mutually part ways
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019/07/31/dc-united-and-midfielder-chris-mccann-mutually-part-ways

    Report: Boca rejects Pavon bid, LA Galaxy target Independiente forward
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019...on-bid-la-galaxy-target-independiente-forward

    Sources: Chicago Fire in talks with Juanfran
    https://www.espn.com/soccer/soccer-...9/sources-chicago-fire-in-talks-with-juanfran

    MLS expansion candidates attend all-star game, lobby for bids
    https://www.prosoccerusa.com/mls/mls-expansion-candidates-attend-all-star-game-lobby-for-bids/

    Sacramento’s Major League Soccer expansion bid is still not finalized. Here’s why
    https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article233345997.html

    Panthers owner David Tepper on a new stadium and MLS in Charlotte
    https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article233342957.html
     
  2. JayRockers!

    JayRockers! Member+

    Aug 4, 2001
    Wayne Rooney, midfielder? With MLS all-stars, DCU star orchestrates attack in loss
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...hestrates-attack-loss/?utm_term=.2b92ce93008a

    Enjoy February north of Atlanta.

    Thx,

    Jay!
     
  3. PhillyMLS

    PhillyMLS Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    SE PA
    Meh, early March and late February aren't much different. Union's first home game was on March 2nd this year and it was a high of 40 degrees that day. The week before it was 42 and the week before that was 50. 2018 wasn't much different as the first Saturday in March and the last two in February were all roughly the same. In fact there is only a 2 degree historical difference between the two dates. There is just a slightly higher chance you may catch a really cold day in February than you will in early March.

    Of course weather is so screwy the last few years that who knows what will actually happen. This year we had those several days where it didn't get above 18 and within 3 days it was in the 60's, whereas last year we had more days with a high above 70 in February than days it didn't reach freezing (2 to 1, and that 1 was 31 degrees). That being said it'll be an Arctic freeze for next year's Union home opener just to teach me to shut my trap.
     
  4. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In Colorado those two weeks are the difference of 5 degrees and 4 inches of snow on average. I'm starting the O/U on rescheduled Rapids games at 1.5 (remember, we had 1 this year).
     
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  5. UNION S.C.

    UNION S.C. Member

    Feb 15, 2007
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With Miami and Nashville in, there are more warm climate cities to schedule early home matches. Northern cities will just have to play first 3 weeks on the road every season.
     
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  6. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Those still aren't good weather weekends even further south. Telling those franchises they are regularly in for less desirable weekends is not necessarily going down well.
     
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  7. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Yep. The high in Lubbock for each Saturday/Sunday this February was:

    Feb 1 - 63 Feb 2 - 70
    Feb 8 - 36 Feb 9 - 40
    Feb 15 - 78 Feb 16 - 74
    Feb 22 - 55 Feb 23 - 55

    Oh, and March 1 was 78 and March 2 was 40. It's all over the place that time of year, and we're definitely considered south. The average high here in February historically is under 60 and average low is right at 30, with a record low of -17. You've got a really good chance of bad weather in a lot of the southern cities that early in the year.
     
  8. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    All you climate deniers. It's going to be balmy everywhere next February. :)
     
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  9. jeffclimbs

    jeffclimbs Member

    Real Salt Lake
    United States
    Jul 29, 2014
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    I'll give that a C- for trolling. Gotta up your game to play around these parts.
     
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  10. PhillyMLS

    PhillyMLS Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    SE PA
    Oh, I was just being specific about the area around Philly. I know that there are plenty of places that February is a no go. Heck, there are places in MLS that March is barely acceptable. But NY, Philly, DC, Nashville, and likely Columbus? It isn't a huge difference. There is a higher likelihood of a really crappy day, but not much more. And one of the mitigating factors is that the league is adding several warmer weather locations (Miami, Nashville, Austin, and maybe Sacrament and Charlotte) that can keep questionable February weather clubs (like Denver) from hosting until March. Though I'd expect you'd still see and early March game that can get snowed out. Not ideal, but I just don't think it will be that big of a deal.
     
  11. big_pole57

    big_pole57 Member

    Oct 21, 2009
    King George, Virginia
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So can we consider soccer in this country has "made it" (yes I'm aware there are probably many "made it" moments) when we can get 30K out to a game in 30 degree weather, maybe some snow flurries? Is this a milestone? Doesn't seem to affect the NFL, in fact, some revel in those conditions. I know, I know, apples to oranges! I'll crawl back to where I came from now.
     
  12. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh, please please please O Mighty Scheduling Gods...

    May we have the Galaxy's visit to Allianz next season be in early March?

    (Preferably during State Hockey Tournament Weekend, where by State Law a snowfall of 2" or greater is mandated...)
     
  13. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I'm not sure Nashville really qualifies for that. It's better than the northern cities, but this February there were 3 weekend days with highs in the low 40s and lows in 20s, 3 days with highs in the mid 50s and lows in the high 30s to low 40s, and only two days with highs in the 60s and those had lows in the 30s.

    Even Austin was anywhere from 39 to 91 for high temps this February. It's better than trying to plan on Denver or Minneapolis that time of year, but not as much as people think.
     
  14. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    The coldest match I've been to in Columbus was a late February CCL night match vs RSL some years back. I think it was about 20 with a wind chill around 10. It was colder than la guerra fria. Let's just say the RSL match didn't draw well.

    We got 18K for our home opener this year on March 2nd. It was cold and blustery but it was also an afternoon match with the sun out. The Crew can probably handle 1 cold weather match early in the season at home but the 3 home matches in March killed our attendance for the year. Crewsmas drew well as always and the others drew squat.

    February is way too early to start the season. The northern teams don't want to play 4 of their first 5 on the road.
     
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  15. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not to mention the southern/west coast teams don't want to have to play 4 of their last 5 games on the road. You know, "when the games start to count."
     
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  16. DCW531

    DCW531 Member

    City SC
    Jan 31, 2017
    St. Louis, MO
    Throw in KC, CIN, and hopefully soon STL. They all have comparable winter weather to Philly...
     
  17. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wish some of the "just play the early games in southern cities" posters would understand this. There's a competitive disadvantage both ways to that, not to mention a significant marketing disadvantage as well. But many people just hand wave that away like its no big deal.
     
  18. Honore de Ballsac

    Oct 28, 2005
    France.
    I'm actually happy for you that you've mind-wiped your MLS home opener.
    Be loony and proud.
     
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  19. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, but we got that big ol' wrap thingy surrounding Allianz Field. That'll keep the heat in.

    Or the noise. I forget which. :)
     
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  20. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, it is true that Don Gagliardi doesn't come close to the OS line when it comes to trolling.....;)
     
  21. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, that and the fact that the numbers of "warm weather" teams just don't add up. You have Miami, Orlando, Atlanta, Houston, LA, LA, San Jose and Vancouver (indoors) as the only truly "warm weather" teams. There are a few others that are iffy, like Dallas, KC, Nashville, Cincinnati, Portland, Seattle, DC, and maybe Philly and the 2 NY teams. Then there are other places that you really don't want to play in until mid-March at the earliest, and afternoon games even then.

    And do you really want to have both LA teams playing at home for 3 weeks in a row? Sure, people love their soccer and most folks are fans of one or the other team, but that is overkill, even if you do one on Saturday and the other on Sunday.

    Playing the first 2 weeks in a row on the road is OK, but it should even out within a month or so. At any given time in the schedule, no one should end up having more than a 2 game imbalance between home and away.
     
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