if you click on the arrow, it'll tell you which quote, maybe i should have left the beginning of it *doh*
Ombak, I have nothing against Comme (or JJF), but, in that particular case, I was the ‘disrespected’ one, in 1st place… Step by step, I’ll try to tell you why (despite my ‘poor’ English)… His expression was not 'half 150 years', but: Even if it were 75 years though, is that something to be affirmed by an informed person?... I never said he stated that. I said he... Which is - slightly - but significantly different... My mistake had ALREADY been rectified by myself since post #526 (when I even humbly excused myself: - “Sorry” - I said)… Re: The Ultimate Soccer Player to Walk the Earth posted Yesterday, 09:24 AM - # 526 To what I responded: After what I immediately pasted the correct 86 English NT. It was our friend Comme, however, who from then on, even being alerted to that, kept methodically insisting in the same note in all ulterior posts: https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13397831&postcount=529 https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13398915&postcount=538 https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13404267&postcount=558 Not if the ‘other poster’ himself doesn’t care about it, as it was definitely demonstrated above (by stating, for instance, that Northern Ireland was superior to Brazil in ‘most’ of the 150 years of football history. If that’s not ‘showing too much bias’, what did I say that was SO MUCH MORE biased?)… If you had applied the phrase: ‘A little reading comprehension goes a long way’ to Comme as well, I’d be the 1st to totally agree with you. Thanks, and I’ll try it, but I do need reciprocity, OK?... C’mon, Comme (forgive me for the lousy pun), accept my hand (not God's, for sure) for a shake-hand…
The word used by me was "WON" not "ACCOMPLISHED". Which changes the whole thing... The argument was used with the purpose of illustrating the fallacy of the usual argument "Pele played in an easier league, so it was easier for him to rack more trophies while Maradona led a minnow to scudettos in Serie A etc". About listing Maradona's accomplishments in Argentina, thanks for sharing. Only from his Boca goals are at least 15 (out of 28) who could make it into a top 3 of goal of the week. Plus many brilliant plays... The points of my argument (maybe it was no so well put, in which case I have to take the blame) was to defend the South-American leagues against the constant rubbishing thet get from many europeans... And in this particular case, that Argentina boasted enough quality during those years, enough anyway to stop Maradona from leading an argentinian minnow to the promised land...
I'll shake the metaphorical hand. I'm going to try and avoid this thread now, because it is likely to be a waste of time.
How the Hell did Paraguay got into this argument???. Just to bring some some facts about PY, at the time when some leagues in Europe were starting we were too bussy rebuilding our country from the War against Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay, that killed 90% of men under 13 ,and killed 75% of the population in the late 1800's.
shoutout to the Eastern Europeans Hagi Nicolae Dobrin - those who have never heard of him before, considered the best Romanian player ever. He was so good in his prime, 60-70, that he single handedly destroyed Real Madrid in a Champions League game (1-0). Santiago Bernabeu was so impressed with this unknown player that he offered and unpresidented $2 million to transfer him to the Madrid side. Because of the communist regime he was not allowed to leave the country and it is too bad he never got to play outside the Romanian League. Nicknamed "the Gander" for his graceful style of play which can be compared to that of Cruyff. He could dribble through the opposition entire midfield and defense and often set up his teammates though he could finish himself.
in my opinion it is Pele. Pele is the best. there will hardly ever be a player so complete again, and so successful. world record in goals, world cups victories, total career titles. He was strong, dribbling past whole defences, perfect header, bicycle kicks, fast, free kick specialist, penalties, skilful with both legs, everything.