The Trump Presidency VII :: Simpletons, Wankpuffins, Bawbags & Erstwhile Lawyers

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  1. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

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    It was certainly more common in the gay male community than straight community, although the least common in the lesbian community. It was also prevalent in some other groups.

    They lost that battle on jobs so they’ve simply redirected it onto other issues targeting LGBT lives. The focus now is on open legitimised discrimination against us for “religious freedom”, which I’m guessing will eventually be argued to include some jobs. So no, it doesn’t make the point for you. They are just as cruel and bigoted as ever.
     
  2. taosjohn

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  3. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Since we have to pander to Prez. WATB, have ICE agents ask immigrants "were you ever, or do you intend to be, a member of MS 13?" That, pinatas and taco bowls are literally all he knows about Central America and its people.
     
  4. Deadtigers

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    You, @superdave and @JohnR are all arguing the same point and kind of cross-talking past each other. As a Gay, Sounders you guys have been not like by any religious type for years, so all this is not new to you. The point Dave and John are making is that at some point we fought the war to move past racism. Racism was not dead but it was generally accepted that outright shit like Roseanne was not excused then it was excused. The move to Xenophobia happened and most of us are not surprised but what is surprising is we are going backwards on the racism front, the Gay fort is under attack and now the Xenophobic wing is under heavy bombardment. We thought we had gotten to a point where all we would have to fight is ended of the Visa lottery and family migration not open racism, the fight to punish gays for being gay and Cruel Xenophobia like separating families. It is the idea that all that progress on several fronts are under attack. We really thought it was universally accepted that you couldn't outwardly make ape jokes about black people and get away with it. It is now all back and we have to fight on all fronts.
     
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  5. Auriaprottu

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    The back of the bus
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    Fifty years getting back to October 2016.
     
  6. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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    At last he is finally clear....He is just holding the kids hostages.

     
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  7. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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    Some push back from a couple of R's...



     
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  8. The Jitty Slitter

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    This is also a lie

    He is not goal oriented - the abuse and power over the kids is the part he likes

    He isn't go to stop any more than a abusive spouse will stop if you be nice to him
     
  9. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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    The R's will pay a price for this in november....They have to!

     
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  10. Deep Wilcox

    Deep Wilcox BigSoccer Supporter

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    Just like Jesus would do...
     
  11. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

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    That is beyond awful.
     
  12. dapip

    dapip Member+

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    But they won't. These are brown skinned children, so they don't count.

    I hope I'm wrong. But my faith in humanity took a few blows since 2016 that will take a while to heal.
     
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  13. CFnwside

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    There are two types of people in America right now, in 2018, where Trump (R) is president and we're building concentration camps for children - those who will vote D in November up and down the ballot, including cross guard and dog catcher, and those who won't. I'll leave it at that in an attempt to be a new, kinder CFnwside.
     
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  14. Deadtigers

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    I think for once the press is doing what they use to do and that is not letting go of a bone. They are not letting him shift the narrative and thankfully others feeling shame (which Trump and Trumpers don't but other GOP people feel) is eating away at it. Fox is trying to push it away but every news source is not letting it go and call his blaming of Dems a lie. Repeated and concentrated bombardment is creating success.
     
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  15. Yoshou

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    In a week, they'll be talking about the next issue and the kids will still be separated from their parents.
     
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  16. The Jitty Slitter

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    Interesting article about the poison of this policy on the GOP

    But I think it still makes the mistake of believing Trump is a rational actor motivated by political goals

     
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  17. charlie15

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    May be but this story will be hard to move to the side. It will stick.
    I agree with @The Jitty Slitter here, Those who don't vote for the D's in November, are simply condoning and supporting fascism in America.
     
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  18. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

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    Keep telling yourself that.. People thought the same about Puerto Rico, but when was the last time the media mentioned the crap that's going on there? Outside of Puerto Ricans, who cares enough about the clusterf**k in Puerto Rico to make it an issue for a Republican running for Congress?

    The press simply can't follow a long term scandal outside of the Mueller investigation. Even then, its because there are frequent leaks of new information for them to cover. In a week, the media will move on to the latest Trump scandal because they will get bored of showing brown kids in cages..
     
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  19. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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    A friend of mine sent me this. I will let the lawyers comment and respond...

    Lots of legal experts weighing in (incl Amnesty Intl) that policy of destroying intact families for coercive purposes meets the definition of torture under both US & international law. This means Sessions, Nielsen etc could be prosecuted & jailed.
     
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  20. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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    i think we are all speculating now....Let's revisit this a month form now or more we importantly in November. That is when we will really know....
     
  21. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    Ann Coulter has seen through this Democratic scam.
    All those kids you see on TV are paid plants. Radical political actors.

    What a lovely lady.

    https://thebea.st/2leVf6C?via=ios
     
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  22. The Jitty Slitter

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    He will do something worse anyway
     
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  23. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

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    That's my point. The media treats each scandal as if it is the first scandal instead of tying it into a general pattern of incompetence and corruption.
     
  24. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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    Those numbers are brutal.....Damaging.

    Big Majority Oppose Trump’s Separation Policy


    A new Quinnipiac poll finds that American voters oppose the policy of separating children and parents when families illegally cross the border into America by a wide margin, 66% to 27%.
    However, Republican voters support the separation policy 55% to 35%, the only listed party, gender, education, age or racial group to support it.

    American voters also support 79% to 15% allowing immigrants who were brought to the U.S. as children, so-called “Dreamers,” to remain and ultimately to apply for citizenship.
     
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  25. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

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    New Jersey
    That 55% of Republicans support this is equally stunning. Think of that...for every Republican you talk to, there is a better tha. 50/50 chance they support this.

    Ask me why I should ever seek middle ground.
     
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