The Trump Presidency Ocho :: It Can't Go On. A.K.A. We All Gotta Duck / When The Shit Hits the Fan

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  1. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
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    Indeed.....But her emails....

     
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  2. soccernutter

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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
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    And making some excuse for it saying it is not that bad, or some version of #bothsidesdoit
     
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  3. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Go to a MAGA site, as I did, and they've all compartmentalized this. Hillary should be in jail. Why? Well, they'll talk a bit about Benghazi, but some of 'em realize that that was investigated forever and a day without finding anything. So they default to the emails.

    None of which matters when Trump and his ilk do it.

    That's a good job of compartmentalizing.
     
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  4. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

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    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
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  5. chaski

    chaski Moderator
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    Mar 20, 2000
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    Trump is sad because he wanted a white shirt too.
     
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  6. roby

    roby Member+

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    Feb 27, 2005
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    With a hood?? :unsure:
     
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  7. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
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    I always find it jarring when a Brit soccer announcer calls a player “boy.”
     
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  8. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    I remember way back when an English coach. Jimmy Gabriel called his team "lads." Big headlines in the Seattle times.

    Strange people you Yanks.

    Mind you it really was jarring when American tourists would talk about Fanny Packs.
     
  9. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
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    And introduce themselves as Randy.

    Then again, it’s jarring for Americans when a hooker wants a “******” (translated to be a certain rugby player wants a cigarette).
     
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  10. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
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  11. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
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    That never made me look up. Granted I don't know that the Brits don't use the word the way American conservatives mean it when they refer to Black men, but I've never heard that they do.
     
  12. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
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    DC United
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    United States
    They use it for any young player, Black, White, brown, whatever.
     
  13. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
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    Exactly.

    OTOH, the American sports commentators know the history of the word as it relates to Black men, so they avoid it pretty much completely, as they should.

    Cue conservatarian toothgrinding about being cowed into tiptoeing around words...
     
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  14. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Cept for Howie Cosell back in the 80s

     
  15. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
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    I don't know what it is Cosell was thinking about.
     
  16. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    He claimed to have used it before that.

    Half the country hated Howie & the other half put up with him. Not sure I ever met anyone who said "he's a great broadcaster that really adds to the event"
     
  17. soccernutter

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    Aug 22, 2001
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    I thought Randy was the Cabin Boy.
     
  18. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

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    But he was a household word (to some degree because of Ali). And a great foil to Meredith, IMO (I was a bit too young to really analyze it). Gifford must have been pulling his hair out at times.

    I never hated his delivery and I didn't hate him when he slurred Garrett. Neither did my dad. But he had to go.
     
  19. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

    Jul 2, 2003
    Fornax Cluster
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    If you think it's just American conservatives using slurs, you're really limiting your sample size. See: Mary Ann Lisanti (D-Harford) Maryland House of Delegates
     
  20. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Or how bout you Brits smoking fags?

    Not-That-Theres-Anything-Wrong-With-That-Reaction-Gif-On-Seinfeld.gif
     
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  21. Auriaprottu

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    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
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    ...just because I don't talk about it here doesn't mean it doesn't concern me.

    I'm-a start being libertarian like that
     
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  22. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
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    Sep 21, 2002
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  23. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
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    New England Revolution
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    United States
    Howard Cosell was annoying as hell, and I can only imagine what a pompous windbag he must have been like in person. That aside, he was probably the first sports journalist who brought up much larger questions about sport in society, and much more than whatever was going on down on the field. He often commented about race in sport, labor issues, and a whole bunch of other things that blurred the lines between sport and real life. Of course, you can't compartmentalize them, but for the most part, it was before he came along.
    The moment I absolutely knew I was destined for the lucrative profession of soccer journalist in America was when I was in high school. A bit of a long backstory, but I had written a very polite letter to the Detroit Express, asking if I could interview their star player Trevor Francis when he came to town. They were very nice about it and I got to meet him.

    I asked hard-hitting questions like, "Of all the people in the US, who would you most like to meet?" I figured he'd answer someone like President Carter, Farah Fawcett or some other hot babe movie/TV star or maybe a rock star.

    His answer? "I'd like to meet the bloke who stole my new leather jacket. When I find him, I'm gonna kick six shades of crap out of him!"

    That was a mic drop before that expression was even invented!
     
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  24. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
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    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
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    Ken Burns in "Jazz" taught me that black musicians started calling each other "man" as a response to being called "boy" forever. That's some deep ownership of the language.
     
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  25. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    I blame Cosell's comment about there shouldn't be a silent moment in sport that's why you have comms. Silence is waste.
    Watching footy in England sometimes the One comm would let the play speak for itself for 10s of minutes at time. Recognizing that the viewers understood the game.
    Nowadays in any sport there are 2 to 3 comms who just don't shut up for a moment. Telling you what you've just watched.

    No wonder Ali kept stealing Cosell's hair piece.
     
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