The Theo Walcott Thread [R]

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  1. crazy150

    crazy150 Member+

    Aug 27, 2006
    North Cuba
    Right. I wasn't saying that the stats tell everything. Although these did tell the tackling story. I was actually expecting a big difference in offensive numbers because of my eyes. This is where stats can be useful though. Fans (mostly English), the press (English) and pundits (mostly English ex players) have a real hard on for work rate and "intent" or whatever. It's why ozil can create 6 chances and get slagged off by the announcer and fans when he shrugs his shoulders after losing the ball instead of chasing after like a spaniel on crack.
     
  2. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
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  3. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

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    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
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    I don't know what you call this kind of chart... a dartboard??

    But if the idea is to get a sense for something at a glance, or to compare one player to another, or one player at different times... it doesn't seem to be any good, at least for me.

    And part of the problem is that I don't think the scales are consistent from graph to graph, player to player, match to match.

    For example with this Theo chart, his xG90 maxes out at 0.60 and his Passing % maxes out at 83%. I gotta figure that on another day, or for another players, you'd have different scales/maximums.

    So, honest question: what am I missing about the usefulness of these kind of dartboards?
     
  4. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
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    They're by position, and the widest circle is top 5% for that position (I think the available positions are forward, attacking mid, midfielder, CB, and fullback).
     
  5. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    According to Knutson, Theo and Arsenal are on the right track for *whispers* a sustainable title challenge
     
  6. CRASH 4 ARSENAL

    Jan 26, 2006
    Chicago
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  7. bandwagongooner

    bandwagongooner Member+

    Dec 9, 2006
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    Ted Knutsen is a shibboleth
     
  8. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

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    Theo's having quite a purple patch...

    First, scoring goals for fun at the start of this season.

    Then, becoming a father for the 2nd time.

    And now, he's become a world record holder in controlling a ball from the highest drop ever... 34m!
    http://www.espnfc.com/club/arsenal/...l-theo-walcott-sets-new-guinness-world-record

    The video was perhaps craftily edited to show how his 3 teammates couldn't come close, except for Coquelin. Plus it made it seem like Theo didn't have many f-up's until his successful one. But in the end, well done Theo. An amazing feat! Or should I say amazing feet?
     
  9. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
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    Arsenal FC
    Goodbye Theo.

    It's a little sad how it turned out for him and us, and I'm a little wistful today. Obviously, he doesn't deserve the contract he had with us, but he's been an efficient attacking squad player over the past few years. He's also the last emotional link to the last days of a bygone era.

    All in all, Theo's career at Arsenal has been the perfect manifestation of the last twelve years of Arsenal. Streaky, and sometimes good, but never consistently excellent. He's been nothing but professional during his time here and I hope he does well at Everton and in the future.

    Kinda pissed we're selling him to a direct rival tho :D:cry:
     
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  10. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

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    This.

    Except maybe not too too well at Everton. ;)
     
  11. Furnaccio

    Furnaccio Member+

    Feb 19, 2008
    New York, NY
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    you know it's bad when you view Everton as a rival ;)
    i miss the days when ManU, Chelsea, Liverpool and ManC were our real rivals
     
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  12. gunner7

    gunner7 Member+

    Jul 27, 2008
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    Thanks for your service and loyalty Theo. It’s been a fun ride. Bittersweet. Watched the kid grow up at Arsenal
     
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  13. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    Right after they signed Theo I was in London and got to tag along with someone when they went to pick their season ticket seat at the Emirates. There was an employee working at the place that looked EXACTLY like Theo and was at work in a light grey suit with a red/white striped tie. So much so that people were taking pictures with him to tell people they just met Arsenal's newest signing.
     
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  14. kanonier

    kanonier Member+

    Nov 7, 2005
    Bloomington, Ind.
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    I'll miss Theo. When he was on a good run of form and confident, he was devastating. I feel like there were 5 or 6 of these patches throughout his career with Arsenal.
     
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  15. kanonier

    kanonier Member+

    Nov 7, 2005
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    This chart IS Arsenal.
     
  16. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
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    Goodbye and good luck to Theo. His time at Arsenal really was a microcosm of the club during Wenger's second act --- at times brilliant, at times befuddling, at times woeful, and never really reaching its full potential.
     
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  17. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
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    Before the acl tear, he had a chance to step forward.

    The story of his Arsenal career is that he is star-crossed. Always has been. The Adebayor goal at Anfield is still one of the his great moments.

    Good luck to him. Wish him nothing but the best.
     
  18. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
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    This. Dude was unlucky at Arsenal, either by injuries to himself, bad management (remember that time he got hurt because Wenger sent him on during a really cold league cup game with no warm up time?), or injuries to others.

    If he doesn't tear his ACL, he probably adds another 30-40 goals to his career tally. He was on fire that season.
     
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  19. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
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    Yeah he has been a good servant but a limited player, maybe he would of flourished under a coach who have more tactical instruction? Who could strwnghten his weakness’?

    He had an elite season a couple of years ago, I like to think he would’ve done better in a team that was stronger defensively or at least played competent holding cms
     
  20. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
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    When you watch Aubameyang, he and Theo are not far off as players. Auba is a better finisher, but their skillsets are very similar.
     
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  21. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
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    Auba is taller, probably important for a striker.

    If we get him (unlikely, those Zorc comments were fantastic!), we're going to have the same problems with Auba up top that we did with Theo. Dysfunctional midfield.
     
  22. Serengeti_Boy

    Serengeti_Boy Member+

    Sep 15, 2009
    Serengeti, East Africa
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    except Auba can do solo runs and make from nothing
     
  23. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
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    we are signing Auba. He not in the Dortmund squad for tomorrow, apparently.

    Auba is taller, but he isn't a big time header of the ball.

    They are very similar players, but Klopp and Tuchel developed him into a striker whereas Wenger never did.

    Auba is a poacher.
     
  24. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
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    I wish him the best.
     
  25. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    The height thing isn't about being able to score headers, it's to be able to get the ball down when we punt it long. We've done this with RvP, Greedbayor, HLB, as well as Giroud, who is exceptional at it.
     

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