The Santi Cazorla show

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  1. lynesjc

    lynesjc Member+

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    Jun 21, 2001
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    Sadly, I think his career is effectively over.
     
  2. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
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    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    I'm somewhere between you & Gunning on this one. I don't think he's completely done for, but I think it's a bit optimistic that he'd play 20X for us this season.

    Maybe he'll be like Rosicky, who was serially injured and was written off during many of those injuries, but he actually came back to contribute in a major way more than a few times. Just not consistently for long runs. And if we're honest that consistent quality is what we badly need from our CM/DM at the moment.
     
  3. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
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    I hope Gunning is right, but the track record of players who have knee and achilles injuries in their 30s isn't pretty.
     
  4. Gunning4Chelsea

    Gunning4Chelsea Member+

    Aug 2, 2005
    chicago
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yup
    I think his agility in tight spaces is gone
    If he plays by new year ... it appears to be a miracle
     
  5. SaratogaGooner

    Nov 23, 2009
    Clifton Park NY
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    why would he want to come back into this declining shit show?? Don't know what his contract says but I personally would stall as long as I could. If he never plays again he went out on a pretty high note. Loved by the fans, good player, good career. Why come back?
     
  6. The Angel

    The Angel Member

    May 24, 2009
    San Francisco
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    Arsenal FC
    He will be *33* in December! Monreal is 31. Next month Kos turns 32 and Giroud turns 31! Cech is close to the age where Lehmann started his decline, and our "pace" player (TW) is pushing 30.

    Amazing to see how far we've come since the CL final:

    2007 strategy: stack the XI with 20 year old nobodys
    2017 strategy: put 11 "has beens" on the pitch
     
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  7. Gunning4Chelsea

    Gunning4Chelsea Member+

    Aug 2, 2005
    chicago
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    Since October 2016
    Santi has gone through 8 surgeries for infections .. skin issues post Achilles injury

    It looks the grant hill injury and we all know how that turned out after he came back

    That sucks
     
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  8. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

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    Connecticut
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    Ay yay yay. I didn't know about that. I only knew about the Achilles thing, and how they can be very tricky and long-term to recover from.

    And actually I don't know much about Grant Hill. Wasn't he that Duke phenom, who never quite reached his potential in the NBA? Was that also because of Achilles complications?
     
  9. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Yes. That's who Grant Hill is.

    Unlikely that Cazorla ever plays again.
     
  10. Gunning4Chelsea

    Gunning4Chelsea Member+

    Aug 2, 2005
    chicago
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    Top level football is done for him
    Incredibly sad...shame that wenger has not made legit attempts to replace him
     
  11. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
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    England
    Grant hill was ok with the witch doctors at the suns though

    Let's hire their staff here
     
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  12. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
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    If we're going to go to the US, I'd rather hire the Seattle Seahawks' staff. Lots of Adderall for Ramsey and Elneny, plz.
     
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  13. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
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    Roids never hurt no one
     
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  14. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    yet again Wumger has placed too much faith in a chronically broken player

     
  15. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
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    Arsenal FC
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    So sad for the guy

    We desperately need him too
     
  16. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
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    Arsenal FC
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    THey took skin graft from his wrist to put around his ankle.

    The skin had tattoos on it.

    He is finished. May get a run out in the last home match of the season, but he is done.
     
  17. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    Belgium
    Santi is a real shame

    Like Rosicky - such a fantastic player but everything went wrong just when he should have been at his peak
     
  18. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
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    Not shocked it happened while here

    Our hiartpry with glass players is laughable
     
  19. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

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    Hiartpry? Auto-correct could be your friend big man.

    p.s. Gangrene??? How the hell...
     
  20. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
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    History yo
     
  21. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
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  22. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

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    :( :( :(

    The gangrene thing still baffles me. With all the fancy health care he should be receiving, how does he get that???
     
  23. danielh

    danielh Member+

    May 30, 2013
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    says a lot about a lot of things: "eight centimetres missing".

    santi is and always will be a stud.
     
  24. Gunning4Chelsea

    Gunning4Chelsea Member+

    Aug 2, 2005
    chicago
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    Thanks for the memories Santi.
    Horrible news.
     
  25. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Remember gangrene simply refers to dead or dying tissue - e.g. because the vessels supplying the blood flow fail.

    We don't have all the details but after so many operations in the same area its completely possible tissue simply died and had to be cut out

    This is definitely a risk with infections and bad diseases in hospitals. If your body decides to shut down a critical organ it thinks is damaged then you die.
     

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