The paucity of English opportunity thread

Discussion in 'England' started by wellno, Aug 9, 2017.

  1. wellno

    wellno Member+

    Jul 31, 2016
    There was an article about this in the Doncaster Free Press: https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.u...bring-back-herbie-kane-this-summer-493767?amp

    The synopsis is Liverpool rejected loan offers because they wanted to keep his development in house this season.

    Going out on Ioan to get games isn't always the clear cut right thing to do. Look at someone like Chalobah getting loads of Championship games but stagnating and contrast it with someone like Harry Winks who is now a Tottenham regular despite not playing much senior football until his early 20s.

    Or, for a Liverpool centric example:Harry Wilson went on loan to league one at 18 and got recalled after 3 months because he flopped. Liverpool kept him in the reserves for two years after that before sending him out again which with the benefit of hindsight seems like a good call. That extra growing up meant he hit the ground running in the Championship and earned himself a PL move for this season.
     
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  2. JRSG

    JRSG Member+

    Mar 25, 2015
    Club:
    Torquay United
    That's not really an accurate summary of what happened to Chalobah. Also, i'm not sure that's accurate about how Liverpool intend to develop him.
     
  3. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    It sounds good but I'd argue that after a successful season in men's football , the last thing you need is to go back to u23s with the "intention" of helping his development.

    If there was no serious Champ interest then I would still find the best L1 club for him. This seemed the issue, as during the summer a number of Champ clubs were linked which may have been fed to media to create interest.
     
  4. Slater582

    Slater582 Member

    Jul 21, 2008
    Shrewsbury, England
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    There are a couple of articles out there stating he turned down a loan move to Fleetwood.
     
  5. ADM99

    ADM99 Member+

    Apr 28, 2019
    Is Foden still sick? Not on the bench today.
     
  6. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Maddison with a great strike. Far better than mount
     
  7. wellno

    wellno Member+

    Jul 31, 2016
    One upping Mount with the ankle injury as well.
     
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  8. Iansutton270390

    Iansutton270390 Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jan 12, 2019
    A young lad starting for Brighton today called Steven alzate. Anyone know anything about him and his background? Hes English but with a name like that and his look certainly gives away a foreign connection.
     
  9. ADM99

    ADM99 Member+

    Apr 28, 2019
    He's of Colombian descent
     
  10. Iansutton270390

    Iansutton270390 Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jan 12, 2019
    He will probably be snapped up by them then
     
  11. ADM99

    ADM99 Member+

    Apr 28, 2019
    We'll have to wait and see but I don't think he's anywhere near good enough to be playing for them at the moment.
     
  12. Iansutton270390

    Iansutton270390 Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jan 12, 2019
    Perhaps not but it is a prem debut so we shall see how it pans out.
     
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  13. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    #1688 Garibaldi11, Sep 22, 2019
    Last edited: Sep 22, 2019
    Lewis O'Brien (98) scored from a very good give and go move for Huddersfield v WBA. The finish also very positive into the far corner.
     
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  14. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Greenwood not even on the bench... typical
     
  15. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    1175743987547856897 is not a valid tweet id
     
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  16. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    At least Gomes is on the bench.
     
  17. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Matchday 1 - 83/220 = 37.7%
    Matchday 2 - 74/220 = 33.6%
    Matchday 3 - 75/220 = 34.09%
    Matchday 4 - 74/220 = 33.6%
    Matchday 5 - 75/220 = 34.09%
    Matchday 6 - 69/220 = 31.36%
     
  18. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    Looks like Greenwood might United's first choice striker next week.
     
  19. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    Tomori starts for Chelsea in a back four. Abraham starts too, and Mount is back.
     
  20. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    This is the worst figures so far this season, I think City in fielding one English eligible player hasn’t helped due to Sterling being rested and Stones injured but not sure where the other drop outs are? I think Choudury started last week but benched yesterday. Palace only started two and Wolves one so maybe Bennett was benched compared to last week for Wolves. So maybe I’m missing two more absent players from last week.
     
  21. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Saka starts for Arsenal also
     
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  22. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    Full deserved but I'm still pleasantly surprised.
     
  23. Placid Casual

    Placid Casual Member+

    Apr 2, 2004
    Bentley's Roof

    Choudhury tends to play when Rodgers wants a more defensive set up.

    He won't play v Newcastle next week but will be back v Liverpool
     
  24. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Great strike from arnold
     
  25. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Tomori is having another solid game despite the scoreline
     

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