The paucity of English opportunity thread

Discussion in 'England' started by wellno, Aug 9, 2017.

  1. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    More pitches, more pitches, more pitches.
     
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  2. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    Fair enough. If there’s not a coaching or scouting deficit then is it all about the pathways and lack of appropriate pitches?
     
  3. dbs235

    dbs235 Member

    Mar 30, 2013
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    There's still a big culture difference. The elite academies and professional footballers might have a bigger focus on technique than they used to but I'm not sure that Sunday league football has become any more technical over the years.
     
  4. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    CHO showed us that the Europa League can be a place for a young player to force further opportunities.

    Wolves start their campaign first followed by Man Utd and Arsenal. Are there any Wolves players of interest (aside from Gibbs-White)?

    I'd like to see Gomes continuing in a deeper central role, Smith Rowe played as a no.8 and Saka tried at left back.
     
  5. ht_hu96

    ht_hu96 Member+

    Middlesbrough
    England
    May 23, 2019
    Hoping that the Europa league can be Greenwood's chance to break through as well.
     
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  6. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    Garner too. The G-G-G unit should get decent game time between them. Greenwood probably the most likely to be used.
     
  7. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    I think Greenwood will be on the bench for United in the Premier League from the off if Lukaku goes.
     
  8. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    He certainly looked good enough against Cardiff.
     
  9. itfcjoe

    itfcjoe Member+

    Oct 8, 2014
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    A lot were first team regulars, or thereabouts last year - but about half of ITFC squad is looking likely to be academy players this season

    Harry Wright - GK - '98
    Josh Emmanuel - RB - '97
    Myles Kenlock - LB - '96
    Luke Woolfenden - RB/CB - '98
    Corrie Ndaba - CB - '99 - (ROI U21 international)
    Teddy Bishop - CM - '96
    Andre Dozzell - CM - '99
    Flynn Downes - CM - '99
    Tristan Nydam - CM - '99
    Idris El Mizouni - CM - '00 - (Tunisia Full International)
    Jack Lankester - WF - '00

    All of those will be in our 22/23 man travelling party for pre season today - if Ben Morris (F - '99) and Ben Folami (F - '99 - Australia U20 international) would also be going to if they were fit. There may even be one or two more where we are short. Bailey Clements ('00) or Pat Webber ('99) as a reserve left back. I doubt Dylan Crowe ('01 - RB) will go or be involved.

    I imagine a couple of signings will be added to that squad, but I don't think money - we will be going into L1 with a mega young squad - for better or worse!
     
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  10. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    None of the above will be sold? Dozzell for example but others could have the suitors too.
     
  11. itfcjoe

    itfcjoe Member+

    Oct 8, 2014
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    I wouldn't have thought so, there may be an attempt to shift one of the CMs and help improve the squad elsewhere - but realistically none are in a position where they are worth selling as not at top of value with where we are as a club, and fact that bar Downes none are of the back of a good run in the side where value can increase exponetially.

    If Lankester starts regularly and plays like he did before injury he'll be the one that impresses the most and will get linked everywhere for a big fee.
     
  12. itfcjoe

    itfcjoe Member+

    Oct 8, 2014
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    In addition to this 2 more youngsters have travelled
    Bailey Clements - LB - '00
    Armando Dobra - AM - '01 (Albania U20 international)
     
  13. David Hurford

    David Hurford Member

    West Ham
    England
    Jul 15, 2017
    Apologies if this was posted elsewhere but Jude Bellingham signed his scholorship with birmingham. Hope he gets his first team chance. What a player
     
  14. maffff

    maffff New Member

    Reading
    England
    Jul 6, 2019
    #1189 maffff, Jul 6, 2019
    Last edited: Jul 6, 2019
    Reading are an example where financial fair play means a large number of academy players are likely to get their chance this season.

    Our team for the first half of the first friendly of the season looked like this:

    Jokull Andrésson (17)
    Tennai Watson (22), Gabriel Osho (20), Tom Holmes (19), Omar Richards (21)
    Denzeil Boadu - trialist (22), Jordan Holsgrove (19) *
    Michael Olise (17), Sam Smith (21), Tyler Frost (19)
    Andrija Novakovich (22)

    *Subbed off for Ryan East (20)

    The entire defence and midfield is England eligible (Holsgrove and Olise have played at academy level for Scotland and France respectively).

    The second half was

    Sam Walker (27)
    Teddy Howe (20), Liam Moore (26), Tom McIntyre (20) Tyler Blackett (25)
    Andy Rinomhota (22), Ryan East (20)*
    Yakou Meite (23), Josh Barrett (21), Modou Barrow (26)
    Danny Loader (18)

    * Subbed off for John Swift (24)

    Howe, McIntyre, Rinomhota, East and Barrett are England eligible young players. McIntyre and Barrett capped at youth for Scotland and Ireland respectively.

    Olise is an interesting one. His brother, at Chelsea, is/was an England youth International. Michael has always been overlooked and had his first call-up for the Toulon Tournament. For France.

    We're down to 4 players over 25 that we aren't actively trying to sell..
     
  15. maffff

    maffff New Member

    Reading
    England
    Jul 6, 2019
    Our u18s/u23s looks very exciting too, we often play a very young u23 team. Coniah Boyce-Clarke, Harvey Collins, Roberto Nditi, Claudio Osorio, Jeriel Dorsett, Ramarni Medford-Smith, Imari-Narain Samuels, Conor Lawless, Oliver Pendlebury, Dejan Tetek and Jack Nolan have all been tipped as potentially making it through to the first team, among others that have had youth International experience.

    Shame it looks like Diamond Edwards left.
     
  16. David Hurford

    David Hurford Member

    West Ham
    England
    Jul 15, 2017
    Louie barry in talks with barca according to The Mail. Whilst im sure they could polish up his technique i think its a bad move, personally. Hed be better at sevilla or valencia where he might have an earlier shot at a first team
     
  17. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    Jack Stacey (Luton, 23y) looks like following Lloyd Kelly to Bournemouth.
    Another talented English right back in the Prem then.
     
  18. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
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  19. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    To continue adding to the list, Chelsea have Baker, Palmer, Chalobah, Sterling, Tomori, Cumming, Guehi, Gallagher and Ugbo with them in Dublin atm. Abraham, Mount and Izzy Brown are due to join up this week.
     
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  20. ht_hu96

    ht_hu96 Member+

    Middlesbrough
    England
    May 23, 2019
    United are certainly going with a pro-English transfer policy but I'm not sure a move to the circus that they are atm is necessarily a good step right now for a lot of these players. Especially with a manager who's mediocre at best and looked out of his depth towards the tail end of last season. Just glad that Sancho doesn't look like he'll be going there this summer at least.
     
  21. AJ123

    AJ123 Member+

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Think Tuanzebe's situation depends on what happens in the transfer market before deadline day. No one wants to buy any of our awful collection of centre backs so he may well end up going back to Villa. It seems that option is open as they want him but we have to see what happens.

    United believe in him massively. He's been there since the age of eight and is a centre back in the modern mould. He's always been a good leader in the youth teams with a big time mentality so he's exactly the kind of player Ole wants to champion at the club. He signed a new contract the other day.
     
  22. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
  23. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Everton had (besides Holgate/Lookman) Joe Williams, Tom Davies, Callum Connolly, Morgan Feeney, Denis Adeniran, Beni Baningime & Josh Bowler involved with their first team today.
     
  24. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Arsenal played Boreham Wood yday.



    Players who impressed Jeorge Bird.

    Matthew Smith
    Xavier Amaechi
    Tyreece John-Jules
    Miguel Azeez
    Ben Cottrell
    Sam Greenwood

    By this it looks like Saka will be joining Nketiah, Willock, Smith-Rowe & Nelson with the first team.

    Definitely looks a contract issue with Amaechi. Also to note all the main new 2nd years have signed pro deals bar Sam Greenwood.
     
  25. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    These guys in addition to Jones and Brewster

     

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