The official all encompassing Rep Discussion Thread [R]

Discussion in 'Customer Service' started by Manolo, Mar 18, 2009.

  1. Manolo

    Manolo Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 14, 1997
    Queens, NY
    It would be interesting to see a stat of the posters with most Reps as a percentage of total posts. Perhaps if you achieve a certain ratio (with some minimum # of posts required), you could become eligible to join some sort of MVP club.

    Think this would be a good idea?
     
  2. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Re: Statistic: Reps as a % of Total Posts

    Would that be total posts since the rep was last reset?

    How about posts in play by play threads vs FFA?

    Anyone want a good recipe for Chicken Vindaloo?

    Does anyone actually pay attention to - or care about rep? Maybe Dark Knight could transfer all of my rep to you, I don't need it.
     
  3. Perndog2006

    Perndog2006 Member+

    Jul 24, 2006
    Nery Nut Ryder
    Club:
    CF Rayados de Monterrey
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Re: Statistic: Reps as a % of Total Posts

    maybe all the posts in WR vs rep amount should equal double rep.
     
  4. Huss

    Huss Administrator
    Staff Member

    Aug 1, 1995
    New York, NY
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Re: Statistic: Reps as a % of Total Posts

    we are due for a rep reset actually
     
  5. Cool Rob

    Cool Rob Member

    Sep 26, 2002
    Chicago USA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Statistic: Reps as a % of Total Posts

    Does that mean I better use my massive reservoir of rep now?
     
  6. Sachsen

    Sachsen Member+

    Aug 8, 2003
    Broken Arrow, Okla.
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Statistic: Reps as a % of Total Posts

    What is the point of this? Since rep isn't displayed under your avatar on each post, it is essentially only for the user's own benefit. So... why reset it?

    Only reason I can think of is it takes up too much storage space on the servers?
     
  7. Manolo

    Manolo Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 14, 1997
    Queens, NY
    Re: Statistic: Reps as a % of Total Posts

    For the record, I think this idea is more than just for superficial value or bragging rights. BigSoccer is free (as it should be), and has been around for a while, so it's become kind of the starting point for anybody who wants to talk football. All of this is totally fine, except sometimes you get ridiculous responses by imbeciles or kids, and even some imbecile kids.

    So I thought it would be a nice idea to differentiate some of the more serious posters. That way, reps would have greater meaning, and people might even be more careful about doling them out.
     
  8. Huss

    Huss Administrator
    Staff Member

    Aug 1, 1995
    New York, NY
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Re: Statistic: Reps as a % of Total Posts

    reps are a great idea that don't really work in reality. good points manolo.
     
  9. RichardL

    RichardL BigSoccer Supporter

    May 2, 2001
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Re: Statistic: Reps as a % of Total Posts

    Rep is good in the sense that it gives you positive feedback that you wouldn't necessarily get otherwise, as the comments would be out of place in the threads. In some ways it is good to be able to check out a poster's profile and get some hint of what others think of their contribution.

    It does fall down in the sense that some seem to see it as a competition and apparently have groups who'll rep each other repeatedly to get large totals. It was always strange when in the days when you could sort member lists by rep, you'd see people near the top and be struck that you'd never even seen them make a post.


    Maybe "reps in the last 90 days" or similar would make more sense. It's still give an indication of more respected posters, but it'd be much more of a pain for those rep cliques to keep their profiles up to 10 green dots permanently.
     
  10. Sachsen

    Sachsen Member+

    Aug 8, 2003
    Broken Arrow, Okla.
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Statistic: Reps as a % of Total Posts

    +1

    I don't care about my "rep count" as long as there remains a way to give and receive positive feedback on someone's post.
     
  11. Perndog2006

    Perndog2006 Member+

    Jul 24, 2006
    Nery Nut Ryder
    Club:
    CF Rayados de Monterrey
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Re: Statistic: Reps as a % of Total Posts

    I think rep count should give u a discount at the bigsoccer shop
     
  12. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Re: Statistic: Reps as a % of Total Posts

    Neg-rep fight!!!!!
     
  13. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Re: Statistic: Reps as a % of Total Posts

    Actually, Huss prints it all out and keeps it in filing cabinets. It's a mess in the office.
     
  14. Cool Rob

    Cool Rob Member

    Sep 26, 2002
    Chicago USA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Statistic: Reps as a % of Total Posts

    I actually agree with this. I think the rep system to some extent increases the quality of posting among the non-moron crowd.
     
  15. Teso Dos Bichos

    Teso Dos Bichos Red Card

    Sep 2, 2004
    Purged by RvN
    Re: Statistic: Reps as a % of Total Posts

    Why not make giving reputation a moderator only feature? It instantly eliminates (well, severely reduces ;)) abuse of it and means having reputation will be linked to positive contributions, as deemed by the moderating team.
     
  16. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Re: Statistic: Reps as a % of Total Posts

    I don't get it. You say rep is a good idea, but it doesn't work (which, by the way, makes me question the validity of your definition of a "good idea"). And yet, despite the fact that you admit rep doesn't work (and I might add, has never worked) you want to do a "rep reset," which, if history is any guide is a "bad idea" that doesn't work -- unless your intention is to annoy people with a fruitless and futile exercise in being annoying. Rep resets don't fix the problem with rep, they just make the numbers smaller. Sounds to me like a pretty pointless exercise.

    It seems to me that what works with the rep system are the comments and the feedback. What doesn't work is the system of points. So get rid of the points and keep the comments and feedback. I'd propose the system we have now, but with these changes: no numerical points, unlimited use. Then it's almost like Twitter -- just a short private note, a kind of side-comment to the discussion, with a thumbs up or down added in. The analogy I keep thinking of is passing a note in class.

    Those changes would mean entirely giving up on the idea that rep should reflect posting quality in some public fashion. But to a great extent you already gave up on this idea when you relegated rep to the user profile page. Maybe it's time to take the next step and get rid of the points entirely.

    Is that a "good idea"? I don't know. Maybe. But it sounds a lot more interesting to me than another silly rep reset.
     
  17. El Washatero

    El Washatero Member+

    Nov 5, 2007
    AP Top 25!
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Statistic: Reps as a % of Total Posts

    Rep Me!!
     
  18. KesOne

    KesOne BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 11, 2005
    Nueva Jersey
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Re: Statistic: Reps as a % of Total Posts

    I heard when your rep hits a certain point you get a free jersey mailed to your address. I'm still waiting.
     
  19. Huss

    Huss Administrator
    Staff Member

    Aug 1, 1995
    New York, NY
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Re: Statistic: Reps as a % of Total Posts

    That's a good post knave. You are catching back up to Sachsen.
     
  20. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Statistic: Reps as a % of Total Posts

    I don't care about the points, but I sure appreciate being able to use the messages. I use them far more as moderator than I did before, but I liked that option before as well.

    If you decide to erase again, I would prefer not to start with point accruals, just the rep messages. If the plan is to keep the points, then I do agree that erasing them is problematic.
     
  21. Scarecrow

    Scarecrow Red Card

    Feb 13, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Statistic: Reps as a % of Total Posts

    Keep the pos rep and get rid of the neg rep. How many times has a neg rep someone sent or received caused problems?

    Just leave it at pos reps (no points needed) and go from there.
     
  22. Horsehead

    Horsehead Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 2, 2006
    Los Angeles
    Re: Statistic: Reps as a % of Total Posts

    It's my guess that about 95% of bigsoccer members use and enjoy the rep as it was intended.
     
  23. Huss

    Huss Administrator
    Staff Member

    Aug 1, 1995
    New York, NY
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
  24. pettyfog

    pettyfog Member

    Jan 30, 2000
    Enon OH Exit 49
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Re: Statistic: Reps as a % of Total Posts

    Here's a string of thought:

    Ah... yes but a small group of assholes and idiots will skew it by using neg rep to flame instead of debating


    There ya go.

    PS: I dont care about being neg-repped and dont recall if I ever have been....
    I do appreciate the several pos-repped though. And they dont have to comment on why they are repping me
     
  25. BobanFan

    BobanFan Member+

    Jun 28, 2007
    Club:
    AC Milan
    why did rep go?

    Well why did it? It gave me a pupose in life and a thirst to provide positive and constructive posts in BigSoccer. Now i just don't feel the same way about BigSoccer.

    Signed one very angry poster.
     

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