The Netherlands- 2018

Discussion in 'Women's International' started by Got Jukes?, Apr 23, 2018.

  1. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Some of Soph's points are valid. If you are the video analyst/opposition scout from a team that will draw them next month, it is not really hard to identify their strength and weaknesses. It is another thing to stop them.
     
  2. Yup. Everybody knows how Robben scores. He does it the same way goal after goal. Given he faces top defenders and his team top tacticions one might expect he for sure would be stopped.
    :ROFLMAO:
    Nope, he keeps doing the same trick and he keeps scoring the same goals.
    So it showes that you can be the best defenders and be the best tactical brained coaches and know exactly what's going to happen, but still can't stop it to happen.
     
  3. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    reading the comments section; several feel that Wiegmann needs to shake up her lineup a bit instead of the same 11 starters & only a few players deep

    but then there's a few others that will say that by now(with the WC aprox. half an year away) an NT should be all ready set up(instead of continues experimenting with new players
     
  4. I wonder about which players these people are talking Wiegman could use.
    One of the draw backs of the Dutch women pool is that we havenot got a lot of depth. So it's nice theoretical blahblah, but reality comes first.
     
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  5. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    I think so close to the World Cup the coaches would know their best 11 and their preferred system. They probably also have an idea on the majority of their squad with the fringe players still fighting for a place.
    France are forced to experiment because we have had 3 coaches in the 4 year cycle, so the new one is trying to fit a four year cycle in two years. Regarding the USA , I will directly ask Jill Ellis in January about it.
     
  6. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    it's this lineup that their referring too, Holland won the 2014 U19 Euro championships with. Yet only Miedema & Bloodsworth make the current starting lineup, Roord didn't even make the squad for last year's Euros
    https://us.women.soccerway.com/matc.../spain-under-19/netherlands-under-19/1690465/

    Pelova & Waldrus are also names mentioned that haven't played for the senior NT
     
  7. L'orange

    L'orange Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jul 20, 2017
    The Dutch need to find a couple of young, good defenders--and another good midfielder or two. Roord is supposed to be a good midfield prospect but I haven't seen her do much to impress in her limited playing time for the NT. The keeper situation seems week as well. Van Veenendaal did well in Euro17 but she's a little clumsy at times. Geurts is more nimble but short--not even sure she could tip an upper-90 shot over the bar. As we've said, there just doesn't seem to be a lot of quality depth just yet. Still, I think they will be a contender next summer. Let's hope so.
     
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    dyzio03 New Member

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Nov 17, 2018
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  9. Got Jukes?

    Got Jukes? Member

    Feb 3, 2013
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
  10. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Jill Ellis is pretty high regarding using the same lineup, maybe just a step below Wiegmann. Meanwhile Germany hasn't even had their new coach in place & while their A team flopped last week, England saw their B squad win handsomely/ so a lot of agonizing decisions to still be made by their coach

    I really think that Jill Roord should start as one of the mids. She's very fast, athletic. could use her to puncture holes into stone cold defenses. She plays right now for Bayern Munich, team that plays the sort of slow burn, get into rhythm(like their be passing to each for about 15 minutes before they even try to take a shot, lol). Roord would do better if she could move over the the English league with it's more run n gun style
    She could replace Groenen, who from the few Frankfurt games I watched. never seems to be anything but ordinaire. Spitse is a bit slow out there to be either a DM or AM, but take it she stays for being such a strong free kick specialist. Read that last game was not the only time that Bachmann burned Dekker(as they met on numerous occasions in the English league)
     
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  12. L'orange

    L'orange Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jul 20, 2017
    Wiegman said that the team would be holding a camp and playing a friendly against South Africa sometime in the near future, then would have two more "practice matches" before the WC, which seems a pretty light schedule compared to the, I think, 10 matches that the U.S. is playing between now and June. That seems too many, IMO, while the Dutch schedule might be the opposite--a touch light. You do want your squad to be fit and tested before the big tournament, but also fresh. Getting that balance right would seem to be important.
     
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  13. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Germany played only one tune up game prior to their 2016 Olympics gold medal performance, and that was over an easy Ghana(8-0 win).

    Wiegman will have one less month to prepare though than the previous Euros(which only started in July)'

    do you know is Tessa Pauw with the South Africa NT? Her coaching style is quite similar to Wiegman's.

    Can't believe Houston Dash got rid of her even though she brought them their best season yet. But then it is Texas, where they prefer an old fuddy duddy like lying Ted over someone cool like Beto!
     
  14. L'orange

    L'orange Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jul 20, 2017
    I read that Desiree Ellis is the South African coach. Pauw certainly seems a good/very good coach who certainly made Houston better--but the word from a couple of Dash fans on this site is that some/many of the players disliked her and suggested there would be a revolt if she were kept on as the coach. I don't know if it is true or not. I get a sense that Pauw is a no-nonsense coach, fairly demanding--and not a "players' coach." The Dash have yet to name a replacement.
     
  15. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa

    Fifth-placed Alkmaar managed to get a draw to keep Ajax in 4th - a crazy ending



    The Eredivisie top 3 are PSV, Twente and ADO Den Haag

    Match report (autotranslated) - www.alkmaarsdagblad.nl/sport/late-comeback-levert-vv-alkmaar-een-punt-op (Archived)

     
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  16. L'orange

    L'orange Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jul 20, 2017
    The Ajax keeper with two muffs late in the game, and the victory was lost. I couldn't figure out what she was discussing with the referee that seemed to start the controversy near the end of the game, but the keeper had a bad night.
     
  17. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Probably a back-pass that wasn't seen in highlights, since the opponents were awarded a FK in the box.
     
  18. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    One of those :

    An indirect free kick is awarded if a goalkeeper, inside their penalty area, commits any of the following offences:

    • controls the ball with the hands for more than six seconds before releasing it
    • touches the ball with the hands after:
      • releasing it and before it has touched another player
      • it has been deliberately kicked to the goalkeeper by a team-mate
      • receiving it directly from a throw-in taken by a team-mate
     
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  19. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    looks like the Dutch will travel to Cape Town to take on South Africa, Jan 19th. Then take part of the Algarve Cup in late Feb.

    found this pic of former NT, Anouk, still looking smoking hot!
    48964935_10157159509594668_2138975648499105792_n.jpg
     
  20. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    the 1st Ned/Denmark WC playoff game finally posted on youtube. Both teams played it tight,
     
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