The MLS Stadium Thread

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by fairfax4dc, May 20, 2016.

  1. El Pelón

    El Pelón Member

    Oct 13, 2019
    Austin, TX
    You're the only team that had to pay a fee to continue to be in the league once you already existed.

    I mean, Austin is the expansion team, right?
     
  2. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    If the San Jose Earthquakes are a continuation of the ClashQuakes, why did they participate in an Expansion Draft?

    It's all silly.
     
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  3. 110toyourleft

    110toyourleft Member+

    Jan 27, 2007
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Park the who-paid-whom thinking. It doesn't really matter.

    Yes, Austin is an expansion team. You're an expansion team if you joined the league after 1996 and didn't play the previous year. You're an expansion team if the number of league teams expan....I mean, increases when you begin play. You're an expansion team if you're in the expansion draft.
     
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  4. DCYC

    DCYC Member

    Chivas, DC United, Reno 1868
    Mar 24, 2010
    Reno, NV
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    So not much stadium news uh?
     
  5. FoxBoro 143

    FoxBoro 143 Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The important thing that truly matters is not whether the Crew are an "expansion" team or not. The question that matters is whether the Crew were "Saved" or "resurrected". How about you all spend the next three pages of the stadium thread debating that key topic, then I can have a well informed opinion.

    Thanks.
     
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  6. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They were clearly saved by resurrection.
     
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  7. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’m offended my post was modified. No way would I voluntarily refer to Columbus’s former owner by that horrible moniker!
     
  8. El Pelón

    El Pelón Member

    Oct 13, 2019
    Austin, TX
    I'm just saying: must be embarrassing to have to pay to continue to exist.
     
  9. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ownership changes all the time and there is always money exchanged.

    What is embarrassing is embracing a trust fund kid from SoCal that just tried, and failed, to crap on another fan base.

    Yet you sit there with your mouth open.
     
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  10. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Every business has to pay to continue to exist.
     
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  11. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does this qualify as Lazarakia @Knave?
     
  12. DCYC

    DCYC Member

    Chivas, DC United, Reno 1868
    Mar 24, 2010
    Reno, NV
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    That's debatable
     
  13. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There was no resurrection. You have to actually die before you can be resurrected. The Crew never died. They were saved.

    #SavedTheCrew.
     
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  14. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And it would have been worth every penny at twice the price to be rid of the guy who's going to be running the Austin team.
     
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  15. FoxBoro 143

    FoxBoro 143 Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So next season will be the resurrection of #PrecourtinMLS?
     
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  16. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe to be followed by an exorcism.
     
  17. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Nope.

    #GraveTheCrew
     
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  18. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, agreed it is all wordplay based on the fact that the league wanted to split a franchise/expansion fee (whatever one wants to call it) but not charge Precourt again.

    In response to your question, because they did not have any players, since it was years since they had competed.

    You can keep your honors & history & colors after your owner skips town (like the Browns did).

    If there is a break in play, then the new incarnation/continuation is an expansion team. But the Quakes are both. An original member AND an expansion team after the break in play.
     
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  19. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    I'd now like to renounce this opinion.
     
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  20. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    I've always assumed it was a tax dodge. If the Haslams had simply bought the team from Precourt for 150 mil and he used that money to buy an expansion team in Austin, he'd be liable for about 17 mil in capital gains taxes for his profit on the sale of the Crew. Not sure if a 1031 exchange was an option for him.
     
  21. wingman2468

    wingman2468 Member

    Austin FC
    United States
    May 25, 2018
    I actually like the idea of a 1031 being involved, but usually its an exchange in equal value, and the Haslams got a stadium and Club history/IP in the exchange as well. Haslams still would have had to pay for an expansion fee first.
     
  22. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How many of Austin's players played on their owner's MLS team last year?
     
  23. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Because the whole team had moved to Houston. Precourt didn't take the Crew with him, just his golden ticket.
     
  24. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Did precourt paid a relocation fee? I don't know if MLS has relocation fees like in NFL
     
  25. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So... soccer stadiums.
     

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