The "Messi: the best player in the world. Is it even up for discussion?" thread

Discussion in 'Barcelona' started by jfcule, Mar 22, 2012.

  1. celito

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    You can even dress like a dork ... :ROFLMAO:
     
  2. BocaFan

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    20191206_222854.jpg ^If this looks like your Christmas tree, you probably also think VvD or CR7 should have won the 2019 Ballon d'Or.

    You're not mainstream, you think and see things differently than others.
    And we're all very impressed. :rolleyes:
     
  3. Ozora

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    unpopular opinion,ronaldo should not be top 30:ROFLMAO:
     
  4. Ozora

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    rm 2-0 asspanyol. can not expect anything from them
     
  5. Ozora

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    everton 3-1 chelsea.
    transfer ban really hurts. your own young players are not enough
     
  6. Ozora

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    wrong thread:thumbsdown:
     
  7. Ozora

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  8. Ozora

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  9. Rattlehead

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    The comparison to CR is a bit off considering CR already left La liga and didnt join RM until 2009.
     
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  10. Ozora

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    he only has just one hattrick for manu and one for juve
     
  11. Rattlehead

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    Yea but it should still be compared to CR all career hattrick not just his seasons with Real Madrid. Then again, since the previous hattrick record holder in La liga was CR, I guess its inevitable people are going to compare it.
     
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  12. Bada Bing

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  13. Bada Bing

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    54th career hat-trick, Cronaldo has 55 btw.

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  14. Ozora

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    by watching the full match i think they had more dribbles than whoscored's stats.
    still it quite amazing to see messi is so consistent dribbler at international tournament.
    how many dribbles did maradona complete at 1982,1990 and 1994 though?
     
  15. TitoTata

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    Jun 26, 2014
    What’s the current ‘goal tally’ of both players , I wonder ?
     
  16. Bada Bing

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    757 Pele
    721 G.Müller
    708 Cronaldo
    706 Puskas
    698 Messi
     
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  17. Bada Bing

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    Don't know other than Maradona holds single tournament (WC86) record with 53 and Messi holds the World Cup overall record of successful dribbles.

    Most Dribbles in World Cup since 1966

    110 Messi (19 games)
    105 Maradona (21 games)
    78 Jairzinho (16 games)
    61 Kempes (18 games)
    60 Hazard (11 games)
    56 Robben (15 games)
     
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  18. TitoTata

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    Thank you !!

    I did try searching but the sites were clearly out of date ...
     
  19. Ozora

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    so messi only 2 goals away from 700. someone will have a nightmare soon:ROFLMAO:
     
  20. Ozora

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    pretty much prove messi being a clearly better and more consistent dribbler at international level than maradona
     
  21. TitoTata

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    Jun 26, 2014
    Bet he leads the figures for total assists and goals from free kicks as well
     
  22. JoCryuff98

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    Messi is definitely a better dribbler than Maradona. Maradona does utilise more skills, but that doesn’t really make him better. Messi is a better pure dribbler without doubt.
     
  23. Bada Bing

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    It's the only statistical comparison we have. Also Messi has now repeated the goal of the century thrice so there's that too.

    There was a good quote about this, Ronaldinho has ten ways of beating one player, Messi has one way of beating ten players.
     
  24. Ozora

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    i think maradona has better ball control aka first touch than messi. of course he also has more tricks to his game.
    but when it comes to dribbling,messi is clearly superior. messi rely on his god like close ball control,glue ball to his feet,quick burst and master of body feint,la croqueta. thats why he beat defenders so easily and even at 32 years old,he still leave them to death. maradona relied more on his strength,he also didnt keep the ball really close to his feet like messi. you can watch his goal vs england and messi vs getafe,you will see the difference between them
    iniesta probably is only dribbler close to messi's stye. of course messi is much faster
     
  25. Ozora

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    did maradona ever score free kick at nt tournament?
    messi has 3.
     

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