The "Messi: the best player in the world. Is it even up for discussion?" thread

Discussion in 'Barcelona' started by jfcule, Mar 22, 2012.

  1. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea LFC
    How powerful media is.
     
  2. puyol

    puyol Member+

    FC Barcelona
    Dec 24, 2009
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Messi is statistically the best Spanish league player in history

    From the 86 seasons of the Spanish league championship, Barcelona forward Lionel Messi has been declared as the best player in history, according to a study by the Research Centre of History and Statistics of Spanish Football (CIHEFE).

    Former Real Madrid icon Raul comes in at second place, ahead of Cesar Rodriguez, Telmo Zarra and Enrique Castro 'Quini'.

    The study analysed a number of factors, including minutes played in each season, goals scored from open play, penalty kicks, own goals and red cards, researcher Jose Antonio Ortega revealed.

    "All of the evaluation criteria are marked with a simple and homogeneous scoring system that manages to evaluate all of the players with the same analysis in each season," he said.

    Since the start of LaLiga in 1929, a total of 9,280 players have plied their trade in the Spanish top flight, with 854 of those being goalkeepers.

    Messi rose to the top of the study for several reasons, including being the only player to vastly exceed 300 goals, currently sitting on 349.

    According to Ortega, his final points tally of 545 comfortably put him ahead of Raul (528), Cesar (524), Zarra (493) and Quini (488), with the top 10 being rounded out by Juan Arza (481), Alfredo Di Stefano (481), Paco Gento (467), Carlos Alonso 'Santillana' (464) and Guillermo Gorostiza (454).

    In his report, Ortega also pointed out that Messi possesses the "technique, ambition, talent and ability that have made him one of the most valuable players of all time".

    During the final standings, Cristiano Ronaldo was ranked in second spot in terms of players who are still active, while he is 17th in the overall rankings with a total of 415 points.

    Rounding out the top three of players who are still in action is Athletic forward Aritz Aduriz, who sits 67th in the total list with 314 points and 146 LaLiga goals to his name.

    All of the players who make up the upper echelons of the rankings mostly have 10 or more seasons in Spain's top tier to their name, with much of that longevity being with one club for a long period, on many occasions.

    http://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2017/08/06/598715c522601dbc5b8b4603.html

     
  3. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    umm where are Xavi and Iniesta???
     
  4. afar

    afar Member+

    Apr 26, 2007
    Messi to Neymar (to convince him to stay at Barça): “What do you want? You want to be the Ballon d’Or? I’ll make you Ballon d’Or."
     
  5. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Good intention, but not the best argument ... if true at all.
     
  6. Forzabarca

    Forzabarca Guest

    Of course not! Why would that egoistic Messi even want to help that poor undervalued favela kid to become a future Ballon Dor winner right?

    Barca is a sinking ship and the biggest rat of them all left already for new "challenges". When in reality it's about being the center of attention to feed his ego and money to fill his wallet and again his ego. Biggest challenge would be bringing Barca back to the top and crush LPB. Instead he's becoming man of the against Guingamp [emoji23]
     
  7. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Not sure if you're trying to be derogative, but Neymar did not grow up in a favela. Stop being stereotypical.
     
  8. Forzabarca

    Forzabarca Guest

    Didn't know that and it makes him look even worse that spoiled mercenary.

    Snake that he is putting on a show for weeks hurting the team and the club when he had already decided to leave and signed with PSG long time ago. Makes one wish he'd end up back in Brazil soon playing for some mediocre team. Messi should just have told him to ******** off instead of being nice.
     
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  9. puyol

    puyol Member+

    FC Barcelona
    Dec 24, 2009
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
  10. inswinger

    inswinger Moderator
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    May 17, 2001
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Leo and Antonella are expecting their third child. Congrats!
     
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  11. evil_allan

    evil_allan Member+

    May 3, 2004
    Turtle Island
    speaking of hat tricks...
    900885333147037697 is not a valid tweet id
     
  12. evil_allan

    evil_allan Member+

    May 3, 2004
    Turtle Island
  13. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Messi goal stats in El classico
    League : 16
    CL : 2
    Other tournaments :7

    CR goal stats in El classico
    League : 8
    CL : 0
    Other tournaments : 9

    You could see the big difference there on who scores more important goals between the two. Not to mention Messi also scored against CR team back in 2008 final. CR scored more than half of his Classico goals in non major tournaments.
     
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  14. afar

    afar Member+

    Apr 26, 2007
    Kondogbia (Valencia): "Madrid missing the best? I did not know Messi played for Real Madrid."
     
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  15. afar

    afar Member+

    Apr 26, 2007
    Buffon: "I told Messi that 'no matter who wins the individual trophies, you remain the best player in the world.'"
     
  16. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  17. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  18. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    That cartoon pic of Higuain is so recognizable haha
     
  19. evil_allan

    evil_allan Member+

    May 3, 2004
    Turtle Island
    one of the better Messi videos I've seen:

     
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  20. Dooly

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    Oct 25, 2016
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    FC Barcelona
  21. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  22. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    [​IMG]

    Arnold Schwarzenegger - “Messi is the Terminator of football.”
     
  23. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    He ran the least of all the outfield players on the pitch the other day and scored 4 goals :)
     

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