I agree but the above factors, but we simply do not have all of those qualities like Germany, Spain or France. I think our players' qualities better fit with 5-3-2/4-2-3-1 rather than 4-3-3. If the new coach can do what we hope for, great, but I just don't see it right now.
http://www.vi.nl/nieuws/topkandidaat-ten-cate-krijgt-concurrentie-van-advocaat.htm So it's either Ten Cate or Advokaat ... final week before the deadline (May 1)
is that what Van Breukelen called "busy" looking for a replacement? Sounds like a lazy and easy-way-out choice to me. Advocaat advised to Blind, so I think chances are we're going to see status quo from playing style and result perspective if he is indeed selected. In another article, I read that Huub Stevens is also being considered. Would take him 9 out 10 (vs. Advocaat or Ten Cate). Multiple winners, including UEFA Cup - although none occurred recently.
^^^ I wonder why Huub Stevens was never considered. I watched several of his club teams play and he was always level headed
Apparently the nightmare will continue. None of these choices seems relevant to relaunch the national team. We must finish with the old school. The ideal would have been a foreign coach or a young coach. We must dust off our football and put an end to outdated tactics. Why not Mark Van Bommel? I read some of his interviews and he developed sound analyzes of our shortcomings.
He just announced he's going to coach the PSV U19 team and said he wants to coach such a team first before taking on a first team as he has no experience with the resposibility for a team as a coach on his own. Sounds sensible.
Because you need someone with lots of experience. Mark doesnt have any. You're taking a huge gamble if you appoint MvB
Is he a Van Marwijk disciple? ... haven't heard/read much about Van Bommel, only that BVM took him under his wing, and as I remember him as a player I'd expect a no nonsense manager. Still in that mould there should be better options, maybe even Van Marwijk if S.Arabia didn't include a big release clause ... or better yet try to lure LVG back. The Belgian FA had talks with LVG ... who kept his promise to his wife and declined ... he left the door open for a future application though. Other big names were bandied about ... some declined, some will have only been baseless rumours ... agreements were reached with R.Rangnick (RB Leipzig), R.Garcia (Marseille) and D.Advocaat (Fenerbahce) ... Holland should be in/advanced past this phase with Ten Cate and Advocaat (doubting there's time to start negotiations with new candidates before May) ... in the end the Belgian FA preferred a younger manager ... who's more in touch with this generation of players. These are the highest paid NT managers ... by no means a thrilling list England......Southgate Italy............Ventura Turkey........Terim Germany....Löw Spain..........Lopetegui France........Deschamps Russia.........Cherchesov Holland......Blind Ten Cate or Advocaat Whoever your FA chooses he won't be the worst of this sorry bunch ... still in Brazil LVG had a big impact (with a less experienced squad than you have now) ... Conte, in charge of a weakened Italy, was by far the best manager at the Euros ... a manager that's a good fit can be rewarding, especially at a time that the managerial opposition is quite weak ... for the current Holland squad to overperform in Russia LVG is probably the best choice ... both Ten Cate and Advocaat are underwhelming options ... haven't heard of anybody who's (still) up for the job that would be nearly as good as LVG. PS just saw this, reportedly Advocaat could be in the lead and according to insiders LVG prefers Ten Cate. https://www.vi.nl/nieuws/van-breukelen-het-waren-respectvolle-gesprekken
The problem is most managers with half a brain will avoid coaching Holland right now, because we're stuck in an "overgangsperiode" (in English that means being in between generations or AKA you're stuck with a shitty generation like 1982/1986)
Why are we even talking about potential managers who are not up to the job? Ten Cate's best period was when he was Rijkaard's assistant. He did little when he moved over to Ajax and I don't think his time in the Greek league was all that successful. Since 2010 he's just been wandering around to a number of different leagues. Advocaat has already had a chance (Paul Bosvelt). Maybe there is no manager in the world who can get this current group to play well enough to qualify.
Me too. Let's see: the fall out with Gullit which is one of the important factors screwing up our chance in 94, the infamous Robben sub in 04, the despicable jumping off the NT ship assistant role for Turkey (put your personal interest and ego out of the door, do it for your country for god sake). KNVB (or Van Breukelen) is clueless. Fools me once, shame on you. Fools me twice, shame on me. Fools me three times, he will fool all of us. I hope Ten Cate will get it, please.
Right. I thought you meant including Bosvelt on the team to begin with, which was in itself laughable. Never mind the most horrible sub in Euro history
https://www.vi.nl/nieuws/ten-cate-was-bondscoach-toen-weer-niet-en-houdt-de-eer-aan-zichzelf https://www.vi.nl/audio/wil-advocaat-nog-wel-in-dit-wespennest-stappen Ten Cate reportedly was awarded the job on Monday but KNVB bigwigs went back on the decision and pressured V.Breukelen into offering the job to Advocaat instead. Ten Cate has said that he ended negotiations. Dick is now the last man standing but does he still want the job? He better demands a watertight contract to put an end to the KNVB's funny business.
The KNVB is at the root of a lot of problems in Dutch football. That organizations top level needs a serious reorganization. Ten Cate was not a good choice, but Advocaat is a downright bad one.
Advocaat would be the worst choice not because of his coach skills but because of his lack of honor. He's a mercenary. I do not believe that the experience of a coach is a guarantee of success. Joachim Low is an excellent coach, but his career before taking the lead of the German team was mediocre. We no longer dare to make courageous choices. There are too many conservatives at KNVB.
I actually think Advocaat would be a good choice(from the coaches now available at least), Ten Cate, however, would be an awful one.
Oh my god http://www.ad.nl/nederlands-voetbal/advocaat-en-gullit-moeten-het-gaan-doen-bij-oranje~a1311870/